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Old 01-02-2010, 23:49   #1
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Ce versiune de VMware este compatibila si cu Win7 ? Cine stie de asemenea daca un Win XP instalat pe WMware in Win7 se comporta identic cu unul instalat fizic pe sistem , ma refer aici la faptul daca este bun pentru teste si bench-uri sau pentru scoruri maxime obtinute in bench-uri este obligatoriu a se instala Win XP fizic pe sistem si tweak-uit ca atare ?
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Old 02-02-2010, 00:10   #2
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Nu te complica cu asa ceva pentru benchuri, vei fi extrem de dezamagit.
Un sistem de operare se va comporta identic ca unul instalat pe un sistem fizic, dar nu din punct de vedere al performantelor. Ce face de fapt VMware? Emuleaza o masina pe masina ta fizica. Facand acest lucru, resursele masinii fizice sunt acum impartite intre doua sisteme de operare (in mare e corect ce am zis) dupa anumite reguli. Chiar si pe sistemele mai noi, ce suporta tehnologii de virtualizare, performantele au crescut, dar nu spectaculos.
Folosirea de masini virtuale cu VMware, virtual pc sau altele e pentru persoane care au nevoie de a testa anumite functionalitati ale unor softuri, chestii de retelistica, programare si altele, dar nicidecum benchmarkuri.
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Old 02-02-2010, 00:15   #3
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De aceea am si intrebat in mod specific pentru bench-uri , in linii generale stiam despre ce este vorba , nu am folosit des asemenea soft si cu atat mai mult nu pentru scopul precizat. Multumesc de info suplimentar Stefun , speram sa scap oarecum ieftin dar banuiam ca este mai bine de instalat fizic Win XP-ul pe un HDD dedicat special acestor tip de teste.

LE : Ce versiune de VM este compatibila cu Win7 , voi incerca sa instalez pe el un Win XP special pentru Age Of Empires care , din pacate , pe Win7 are grafica "sparta" indiferent de ce driver folosesc , este o chestie stiuta , la fel s-a intamplat si pe Vista pana la aparitia SP1. Iarba in loc de verde curat se vede amestecat cu texturi de maro , apa in loc de albastra are texturi de purpuriu , etc , si nu am gasit pe net nici o rezolvare a acestei probleme. Sper doar ca odata cu aparitia unui SP la Win7 sa se remedieze acest neajuns , pana atunci o solutie ar fi VM sub Win7 si Win XP in VM.

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Old 02-02-2010, 10:15   #4
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Intotdeauna ultima versiune este compatibila cu Win 7 si anume 7.0.1 -> http://downloads.vmware.com/d/detail...RqQHdiZGR0Kg==
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Am luat de pe torrente ultimul VMware 7.0.1 cu keygen , sper sa si functioneze fara probleme. Multumesc de info.

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Editeaza-ti postul, si zici ca l-ai luat de pe site-ul oficial, trial 30 de zile...
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Da cine va urmareste? Secu?
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err0r: recomand Windows XP Mode. Ruleaza aproximativ la fel de rapid ca si VMware, insa se integreaza mai bine in OS. Nu cred insa ca are suport pentru 3D.
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Raptor, ai testat XP Mode? Cum se comporta? Ca astia de la Microsoft il laudau destul de mult, si am vazut destul de mult entuziasm pe net, inainte de lansarea oficiala...
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Cred totusi ca o sa instalez VM prima oara sa vad cum se comporta si daca nu sunt multumit o sa incer acest XP Mode sugerat de Raptor.
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XP Mode nu are suport pentru 3D. In schimb da, se integreaza foarte frumos cu OS-ul.
VM-ul are suport si pentru 3D iar daca ai PC destul de bun pot sa mearga si jocurile mai vechi.
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vmware are nevoie de nehalem si multa memorie
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Pai cred ca pe un i 920 si 6Gb s-ar misca bine (zic eu) ...
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XP Mode nu are suport pentru 3D.
Merg unele jocuri mai vechi. Eu am jucat Heroes 3 si Ignition

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Un mic experiment: Windows 7 x64 vs Windows XP Mode.
Test: SuperPi.
Niciun tweak, rulat default.

1M
Windows 7: 16.707s
Windows XP Mode: 17.706s

8M
Windows 7: 3m 18.916s
Windows XP Mode: 3m 22.270s

Deci nu are niciun sens sa-l folosesti cand dai bench-uri
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Old 13-02-2010, 22:25   #15
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Multumesc de teste eXpander.
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Old 15-02-2010, 14:30   #16
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eXpander, Microsoft Virtual PC 2007 nu e acelasi lucru cu Windows Virtual PC (care e responsabil si de Windows XP Mode). Linkul catre XP Mode: aici.
Stiu ca Virtual PC 2007 avea unele capabilitati 3D iar urmatoarea versiunea (cronologic vorbind) Windows XP Mode nu mai are deloc suport 3D. Da, se pot rula unele jocuri in software rendering (am vazut pe undeva niste printscreen-uri cu Quake), dar VMware se descurca mai bine cand vine vorba de 3D.
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vmware se descurca excelent la 3d... cand aveam i7 965+ 6gb ram + 9800gt manca pamantul 3d-ul pe 3 vm-uri simultan... tot respectu pt vmware team
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