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Old 21-11-2020, 02:52   #21
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pentru momentul asta, pentru un user oarecum avizat, un ryzen 5 3600 mi se pare acceptabil. Cu 2678 v3 esti cam pe acolo.
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Old 21-11-2020, 03:32   #22
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pentru momentul asta, pentru un user oarecum avizat, un ryzen 5 3600 mi se pare acceptabil. Cu 2678 v3 esti cam pe acolo.
Niste benchmarks nu ar strica, nu luate de pe net, pornind de la casual apps pana la wm. Asta ca sa ne batem in numere, nu de alta dar fata de 3900XT in real life sunt cu prea putin in urma comparativ cu $ investit. As incepe cu un linpack pe r5 3600, mai apoi un horizon new dawn, metro exodus si ulterior cu restul. Din start orice Ryzen pica la capitolul banda de ram...quad vs dual, cu tot cu mhz. O sa imi ajunga si 2678v3 si o sa postez rezultatele.

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Old 03-12-2020, 23:28   #23
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la asta adaugam chestii nedorite: management engine, meltdown, spectre
ar fi si niste minusuri: usb 3.2 gen 2, pci express 4.0 lucruri pe care un x570 le are, de la preturi de 7-800 ron.
Uite o comparatie relativa, xeon-ul il ruleaza pe chinezaraie.
//https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWjTraa-0T8&ab_channel=Miyconst//
In fullHD agree, eu unul am 75hz la monitoare iar peste 85hz nu vad nici o diferenta, altii vad...FOARTE putini zic eu dar asta e alta discutie.
So, Ryzen e de 4x mai scump...
Mai departe...fiecare dupa nevoi, vorba unora, daca mai ai si ceva masini virtuale in fundal, mai faci un stream, live etc, inca 6 cores nu doar ca se simt ci fac diferenta maxim, toate astea la un preat de 4x mai mic. Cat timp un CPU nu sta la 90% = optimizare de kko SAU trendul actual, vindem cifre.

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Old 17-12-2020, 20:58   #24
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recomand e5 2678 v3, este 12c 24t de 2.5 cu boost la 3.3, are tdp de 120w si cu mod-ul de turbo unlock sigur il duci la 3.1 3.2 all core
A venit, pana acum doar baiuri, un modul de RAM nu il citeste windowsul, aida il vede, mobo vede info trunchiat. Am patit si cu 1650-ul dar si-a revenit dupa ce am urcat system agent voltage, ulterior bios reset si nu a mai facut figuri. De data asta nu vrea nici in ruptul capului. Mai sta si in dual channel.

Pentru TB unlock am incercat tzz tuturiole, am biosul facut dar UBU nu il face .cap pentru bios flashback. Momentan 2.9 all cores.
Se comporta intr-un mare fel, daca ii cresc tensiunea scade viteza instant (AI Suite)
Cu un offset din bios setat nu mai face la fel.
Idem, nu accepta mai mult de 2133 la ram nici in ruptul capului.

LE: finally am reusit unlock, stick-ul initial era cu vaca si nu mergea flashback. E5 2xxx vs E5 1xxx sunt diferite de la cer la pamant, E5 1xxx e un i7 iar OC se face precum la un i7.

Diferente foarte mici in Horizon.

LE: rezolvat toate problemele, am fost talentat si unul din pinii din socket era mai handi. Vede tot ramul, doar 2133 vrea no matter what dar scorurile sunt precum la 2680 cat accepta si celalalt, latentele pe 15 acum.
Noul scor cu Horizon in ultima poza.
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Old 20-12-2020, 13:17   #25
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CPU Svid disabled si ajunge la 210 215w. Cu el enabled reuseste sa mentina o fereastra de 138w si mai apoi revine la 120w.
Din pacate cu svid disabled vad puterea comparand citirea dintre idle si load la priza.
Am incercat si svid enabled si vrm power phase pe extreme dar nu sare de 137w.
LE: terminat cu setarile. Cinebench a fost 4200 in ultima runda.
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o concluzie cu diferentele de performanta intre ele doua procesoare ai tras?
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o concluzie cu diferentele de performanta intre ele doua procesoare ai tras?
In materie de games pe acolo sau cu 10% mai slab in metro exodus doar, in restul acelasi lucru.
In materie de multitasking...well inca 6cores extra, in WM se simte maxim.
Am pierdut ~12gb/s la write in RAM, la read/copy au ramas ca si la 1650v3, doar ca acum ramii ruleaza la 2133 vs 2680 cat aveau inainte.
Totul ruleaza mai rece acum, incepand de la vrm, pch pana la M2.

Am ratat un 1660V3 la 101E pe ebay, 8 cores la 4.3 4.4 erau ideale pentru gaming si apps curente.

Per ansamblu merita procu' asta.
LE: in HW apare si CPU Power, daca la priza apare un 210W in HW la CPU am 196.5W.

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Gata, probabil se mai poate dar enough pentru mine.
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un mare avantaj la e5 2678 v3 este ca il poti imperechea cu ddr3 de server care este ieftin si nu penalizeaza foarte mult performanta.
Din pacate imi lipsesc doua module ddr4 ca as fi facut eu o comparatie de performanta intre ddr3 1866 si ddr4 2133 pe acelasi cpu
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un mare avantaj la e5 2678 v3 este ca il poti imperechea cu ddr3 de server care este ieftin si nu penalizeaza foarte mult performanta.
Din pacate imi lipsesc doua module ddr4 ca as fi facut eu o comparatie de performanta intre ddr3 1866 si ddr4 2133 pe acelasi cpu
Si ddr4 este ieftin. Diferenta trebuie sa existe clar. Eu cu 2133 pierd doar la write vs 2680mhz. 12gb chiar.
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