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Old 08-07-2019, 20:25   #561
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Placile de baza Gigabyte sunt solide. Nu am nimic cu ele pentru un sistem daily. Eu caut ceva care iarta utilizatorul cand vine vorba de OC agresiv, bios recovery, etc, fara cmos reset.
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Astea noi (Z390 si X570) se reseteaza singure, nu trebuie sa iti bati capul. La AORUS ma refer
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Old 08-07-2019, 21:03   #563
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Done, revin cu impresii dupa ce ajunge. Daca face figuri ii dau retur.
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Old 08-07-2019, 21:28   #564
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Done, revin cu impresii dupa ce ajunge. Daca face figuri ii dau retur.
Fain, bafta sa fie ce trebe.

Astept pareri, 3600X + Aorus x570 Elite e combo-ul care ma intereseaza pe mine.
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Old 08-07-2019, 21:47   #565
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De ce naiba au pus ventilator pe chipset la x570?der8auer a facut niste teste interesante:

LE;in general m-am ferit de gigibyte,dar de vreo luna am z390 master,super cu dual bios,solida,stabila,vrm fff bun,bla bla.Singura nemultumire biosul arata preistoric,dar nu ma pasioneaza prea tare,doar nu stau in bios 24/7.
Cred ca si aorus master x570 va fi foarte ok.


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Old 08-07-2019, 22:17   #566
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L-am ars pe fraier... carry on
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Old 08-07-2019, 22:59   #567
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L-am ars pe fraier... carry on
fraierul fiind 3900x?
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Doamne fereste. Nu, am avut un troublemaker pe aici dar am facut curat.
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Old 08-07-2019, 23:11   #569
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Doamne fereste. Nu, am avut un troublemaker pe aici dar am facut curat.
Acum am înțeles l-ai pus pe pauză
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Old 08-07-2019, 23:16   #570
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Astia de la anandtech ziceau ceva de bios ca limiteaza frecventele la zen2.Cu bios nou la msi merg mai sus cu 200mhz.Monstru poate incerci biosurile noi de la msi si gigabyte pentru x570.


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We ran our original review numbers with the latest available firmware for the MSI MEG X570 ACE motherboard last week (Version 7C35v11). On Saturday the 6th MSI had shared with us a notice about a new version coming out, which became available to download to us on Sunday the 7th, the launch day and date of publication of the review.


We’ve had more time to investigate the new firmware, and have discovered extremely large changes in the behaviour of the frequency boosting algorithm. The new firmware (Version 7C35v12) for the motherboard contains AMD’s new ComboPI1.0.0.3.a firmware.
We notice a significant change in the CPU’s boosting behaviour, now boosting to higher frequencies, and particularly at a faster rate from idle, more correctly matching AMD’s described intended boost behaviour and latency.


We’re currently in the process of re-running all our suite numbers and updating the article where necessary to reflect the new frequency behaviour.

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On hold... plm.

In fine, discutia chiar avea rost daca apucam sa ajung la ea fara insulte. Ideea este ca AMD au facut sampling cu 4 placi (Asus, Asrock, Master de la AORUS si Godlike de la MSI). Am ales AORUS si Godlike, pentru ca ma inteleg bine cu placile astea, in Asrock nu am incredere la lansari (vezi X299 care supravolta proacele mai sa le omoare) iar Asus am avut un DOA la primul Ryzen. Nu am testat pe Master pentru ca am deja Xtreme-ul.

Dar... ce sa vezi... pentru placile astea am primit BIOS-i pusi la punct de la AMD, care merg cum trebuie, merge boost-ul cum trebuie, etc. Pentru Xtreme, in momentul in care am inceput testarea, nu aveam bios cu ultima versiune de AGESA, etc. Motiv pentru care am ales sa testez pe un varf de gama (Godlike), mai ales ca toate WR-urile sunt date momentan pe asta, deci placa e mega solida si mai ales testata.

E... daca o sa cititi cu atentie treburile care circula pe internet, o sa vedeti ca toate bubele, toti cei care au avut probleme cu boost-ul, ori au folosit placi care NU erau in pachet (Ace, de exemplu), ori biosi de pe site-ul producatorului, nu ce a pus la dispozitie AMD, ori Asus (suspectez cu bios de pe site).

Acum, desigur, exista biosi si driveri oficiali pusi de ieri pentru toata lumea. Dar pana ieri lucrurile nu stateau asa. Cum eu nu prea ma joc cu lansarile si sunt foarte atent la ce aleg si de ce, am ales Godlike-ul si am verificat cu atentie boost-ul, la fel cum am ales Xtreme pentru SSD-uri, pentru ca momentan merg mai bine pe ea.

Asta era ideea, dar discutia s-a dus in derizoriu din varii motive.
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Off: Monstrule, cred ca ti-a transpirat barba cat ai stat sa te joci cu utilajele la 28 de grade
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Old 09-07-2019, 10:43   #573
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Poate barba se scălda în spumă de bere și se răcorea

Pe un ton serios, detaliile legate de originea și versiunea de bios cât și setările acestuia lipsesc din review. Eu presupun mereu cazul ideal, setări optime, când nu e specificat altfel. Dar fiecare are propriile opinii și presupuneri, deci pot să apară confuzii și neînțelegeri... Monstru, crezi că ar fi potrivit să oferi astfel de detalii când/în apropierea publicării review-urilor, de exemplu pe forum? Mulțumesc!
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Nu lipsesc... ultima versiune disponibila... intotdeuna.
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Nu am vazut nimic legat de asta in vreo comparatie, sau nu am stiut eu sa ma uit, dar exista vreun boost de performanta intre pcie gen 3 vs 4 pe noile placi de baza? GPU wise si pe ce altceva mai conteaza
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Nu prea... minutu 8
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@faraverete: Nu prea exista, cel putin in cazul 5700X:
PCI-Express 4.0 Performance Scaling with Radeon RX 5700 XT
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Am finalizat azi un build pentru un prieten cu un buget de mid level, si voi mai face unul soon™ pentru o cunostinta pana'n 8k lei (preferabil mai putin) pentru unitate, si ma gandeam daca merita sa investesc banii respectivi intr'un mobo x570 sau sa iau un b450 / x470 decent si restul de bani sa'i plusez la GPU / stocare mai mare (dintr'un calcul rapid imi iese un b450 + 3600 + 2070 super pentru un sistem de gaming / productivity, care se vrea a fi rece si silent)
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Nu am vazut nimic legat de asta in vreo comparatie, sau nu am stiut eu sa ma uit, dar exista vreun boost de performanta intre pcie gen 3 vs 4 pe noile placi de baza? GPU wise si pe ce altceva mai conteaza
Doar la SSD-urile noi
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atunci neinteresant, pentru ce'i trebe la gagiu' n'o sa simta diferente.
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