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Old 21-02-2010, 17:37   #41
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Nu mai usor masori amperii de pe linia de 12V si calculezi exact putearea? Nu de alta dar acele prize care citesc consumul, mai citesc si in stele din cand in cand...
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Old 21-02-2010, 18:04   #42
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Ampermetrele normale un masoara pana la 80-100 amperi, adica cat am avea nevoie
In al doilea rand e cam greu sa masori pe toate firele de 12V care merg la procesor pentru ca isi trage curent si din mufa ATX
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Old 21-02-2010, 19:02   #43
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Mai jos diiferenta dintre o setare pentru consum redus si cea pentru extreme TDP/CFM

Este posibil sa fie inexacte aparatele astea, eu am doua (de tip diferit) care arata cu o diferenta de cativa wati (~4), si am conectat un bec de 100watt la aparat sa vad daca arata ok (arata 97 watt).

Un calcul simplist imi arata ca sunt in jurul limitei conectorului CPU 8 pin (300 watt). Bineinteles ca nu toata caldura generata de cpu este obsorbita si disipata de cooler dar procesorul are ceva "singe" in el la 1.6vcore(MM).
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Old 21-02-2010, 19:15   #44
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Am testat un astfel de device de la 40 la 1000W. Precizia cea mai mica e sub 100W, precizia cea mai mare este >500W). Intr-o marja de eroare de 5-10% isi fac treaba foarte bine aparatele astea.
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Old 22-02-2010, 12:50   #45
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care e mai bun,venomous sau megahalems?
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Old 22-02-2010, 13:01   #46
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Depinde de categorie, destul de aproape unul de altul, Arrow merge foarte bine in unele locuri.
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Old 22-02-2010, 20:12   #47
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arrow n-are inca un pret la noi
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Old 23-02-2010, 17:26   #48
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Salutare. Im primul rand vreau sa-l felicit pe poparamiro pt. testele pe care le face. Am descoperit de curand acest site si am fost impresionat in mod placut de calitatea articolelor. Tot asa!

As vrea sa semnalez o problema si sa cer un sfat in acelasi timp.

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i7 920 (2.67 Ghz momentan), 3 x 2 GB DDR3-1600 PC3-12800 OCZ Obsidian Triple Channel, GFX: Sapphire Radeon 5870, PSU: Seasonic X-750, HDD1: Supertalent Ultradrive GX 64GB SSD, HDD2: Western Digital 1TB, CPU cooler: Thermalright Venomous X + 2x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1450 RPM + NZXT Sentry 2 fan controller, Case: Apevia X-Cruiser.

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Venomous X + 2x Scythe Gentle Typhoon 1450 RPM + IC 7 Diamond

Am dat-o in bara cu prima aplicatie la IC7, a doua a iesit, totul era ok. Temp cam ridicate la inceput dar banuiesc ca e normal pana cand pasta prinde efectul de burn in. In fine. Dupa ce montez Venomousu, strang de surubul din mijloc sa-l bag la presiune de 70 lbs ca de, tighter e better. Pornesc computerul, ajung in Windows totul pare ok pana cand vad ca deodata am pierdut 2GB Ram. Restart, verific in BIOS, la fel 4GB in loc de 6. Verific slot pe slot si observ ca slotul #3 e cel cu probleme. Panica. Ma gandesc ca am crapat placa de baza cu surubul lui peste. Verific din nou in Windows, de data asta cu CPUz. Imi detecteaza bine 6 GB Ram, toate sloturile ok. Hmmm hmm. Googlez. Aflu ca si altii au avut astfel de prob cu alte placi de baza X58. Solutii? De la curatarea slotului cu tot felul de sprayuri pana la reflashuirea Biosului si verificarea la pin de pe cpu. Incerc reflash de 2 ori. Nimic. Verific pinii de pe CPU, Nimic, tot 4GB in Bios/Windows.

Pana cand unul mai rasarit posteaza pe un forum sa las presiunea mai moale la cooler. Incerc. La primul reboot la fel. La al 2-lea totul e ok. 6GB in Bios si Windows.

In concluzie as zice atentie daca aveti Venomous X sau water cooling, proc Intel, Mobo x58 si memorie Triple Channel, nu strangeti surubul ala ca haiducii ca nu-i prea place.

Sfat needed:

In tot procesul descris mai sus a trebuit sa dezinstalez complet coolerul. Asa ca pasta mea IC7 Diamond s-a dus toata. A trebuit sa folosesc pasta care a venit cu Venomousu` (Chill Factor 2) care dupa cateva ore de uzaj nu prea m-a impresionat. In idle dupa vreo 12-20 min temp urca pe la 42, chiar 45 grade. Mi se pare cam mult, nu? Ce ziceti, sa mai astept sa se faca burn-inul inainte de a trage concluzii? Deasemenea coolerul nu mai e strans ca inainte la super presiune din motive evidente si ma gandesc ca si asta a contribuit la o temp ceva mai ridicata, dar totusi 42-45 in idle cu Venomous X si 2 Gentle Typhoons mi se pare prea mult. Ah fanurile merg constant pe 70% din capacitate momentan.

M-ati sfatui sa iau Indigo Extreme sau sa raman pe IC Diamond ? Am vazut reviewul de pe site si Indigo Extreme pare alegerea ideala pt un Venomous X nelapuit! Liquid Pro nu prea ma tenteaza dupa ce am vazut ca lasa urme pe ce intra in contact si nu ma bag la lapuiri.

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In primul rand bine ai venit

1. Aici e testata influenta Pressure Vault Bracket la extreme tdp (~300 watt), deci in cel mai rau caz diferenta dintre vault off si vault max este de 1c prin urmare poti linistit sa nu strangi surubul central, la tdp mic diferenta va fi mai mica (adica posibil zero)

Pasta recomandata de mine este Prolimatech PK-1 pentru ca are performante foarte bune si vascozitate mai mica decat MX-3, CF2 sau IC7 de exemplu. Va functiona foarte bine si in cazul unor sisteme de prindere cu presiune mica.

La VenomousX nu ar trebui sa ai probleme cu nici o pasta termica, totusi daca ai avut probleme cu IC7 poti incerca o metoda de aplicare spread (pe toata suprafata ihs-ului)

Nu am avut probleme cu vault pressure la maxim in nici una din cele doua montari dar intr-adevar presiune este cam mare si nu recomand nici eu strangerea surubului.

VenomousX are o baza buna (nu perfecta) iar in cazul sk 1366 o baza convexa (cu burta) obtine rezultate mai bune decat una lapuita.

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Old 23-02-2010, 18:37   #50
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Mersi de sfat. O sa ma decid intre Indigo Extreme si Prolimatech Pk 1. Problema cu Indigo este ca nu o gasesc nicaieri (decat in SUA). Tu de unde ai luat-o?

Iar in general, ce ma sfatuiesti sa fac ca proces de burn in pt o pasta abia aplicata? Gen Prolimatech. Prime 95 timp de 1-2 h?
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Eu zic sa lasi Indigo Extreme, pui pk-1 si dai drumul la "tren", nu trebuie burn.

PK-1 este o preferinta personala bazata pe faptul ca se aplica usor si dupa cum am mai spus functioneaza bine cu sisteme de prindere mai slabe.

La mine au mers bine toate dar unele doar in conditiile unui sistem de prindere foarte bun.

Mai jos poti vedea cum arata MX-3 in combinatie cu un sistem de prindere slab, chiar modat in cazul copper-ului.
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Deci practic, no burn in, doar sa-l pornesc si gata. Banuiesc ca in timp se va face singur. Ok o sa-ti urmez sfatul cu Prolimatech si o sa reportez ce si cum in curand. Sper sa ajung la temp sub 40 in idle...

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Ok domnule, asteptam ceva rezultate, dar in load nu in idle
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Unul din "secretele" performantei de exceptie obtinute de Sageata Atomica.

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At last

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Nice! Cand o sa fie publicat?
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Maine dimineata....fiti pe faza...el vine....
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coboara din munti ?


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