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Old 14-12-2016, 23:33   #41
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3930k la 4.4 Ghz, 6c/12t

34.28s.

As zice clar ca acest bench adora frecventa mare. Dar e un bench prost, la o scena reala, cu render de macar 15-20min, acolo frecventa asta nu ar aduce un asa mare plus si nucleele si-ar spune cuvantul.
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Old 14-12-2016, 23:38   #42
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Pai da, dar atunci nu poti arata live "uite, merge ca Intel"
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Old 14-12-2016, 23:41   #43
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Din ce zice unul care nu stie cum e cu turbo se pare ca pe toate core-urile e 3,5Ghz la 6900k:

"I've just installed Windows 10 on my new system i7 6900k asrock x99m fatal1ty killer 3.1 (matx) and according to cpu-z the cpu at 100% load is 3.5GHz (x35) instead of 3.7GHz as stated in arc cpu spec. Bios has all auto settings, ram frequency is auto at 2000mhz, i pushed it to 2666mhz to no prevail. "

Deci am putea sa consideram testele cu "big gun" ca 99% match pt 6900k.
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Old 14-12-2016, 23:44   #44
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Nu...pentru ca multe placi de baza fac asta iar ei l-au setat mai mult ca sigur manual. Te cred...e greu...dar hai sa lasam speculatiile si sa vedem raspunsul de la AMD si cum merge 6900K de fapt
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Old 14-12-2016, 23:46   #45
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I7 6700K default
32 GB DDR3 @ 3000 MHz 15-17-17-35
Win 10 pro x64 (neactivat )
100 samples / cuda 0ff
37.33 s

@4500
39.41 ????
*later edit am repetat testul 35.59s

@4800
33.31s
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Old 15-12-2016, 00:25   #46
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Xeon E5-2667 v4
SR2P5 (R0)
8 3.2 GHz 3/3/3/3/3/3/4/4 8 256 KB 20 MB
135 W
LGA 2011-3

Asta ar fi echivalentul xeon(pt dual socket) pt 6900k :8core/3.2ghz default/20mb cache.
Turbo incepe de la 3. Nu vad de ce la seria enthusiast, sa aiba turbo mai prost ca la seria pt workstation/server.
Dar poate apare si un 6900k sa ne lamurim pe deplin si sa nu mai facem speculatii. Oricum AMD cred ca stii ce tip de raspuns o sa iti dea nu?

uite si ceva interesant:

Avand rezultatul lui rodarkone de mai sus : 6700k default 37.33s si luand datele din testul alora cam cat ar da un 6900k? cam 23.59 cumva?
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AMD o sa imi dea un raspuns cat se poate de oficial si corect, te asigur.
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Old 15-12-2016, 00:36   #48
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@guest13: Hai să nu mai extrapolăm...
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Old 15-12-2016, 00:36   #49
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Da dar plin de marketing bullshit mai mult ca sigur.
Oricum daca 6900k are intr-adevar pe la 24 sau hai si 27-28 functie de sistem etc etc eu prevad multi dezamagiti pe internet tinand cont ca ryzen are 36 si amd le promitea ca bate 6900k-ul...
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Inca nu intelegi....le-am trimis un mail oficial celor din UK, care au intrebat oficial mai departe la headquarters in US exact ce setari au schimbat in afara de samples si daca au folosit aceleasi setari pentru ambele procesoare. Crede-ma, nu au cum sa nu raspunda punctual

Eu iti inteleg si nerabdarea si dorinta de a extrapola, problema este ca mie nu imi place sa strig "hotii" pana nu am dovezi sau pana nu inteleg exact cum au testat. De aia nu are rost sa extrapolam acum...
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@guest13: Hai să nu mai extrapolăm...
Nu e nici o extrapolare. E un fapt: in Blender 6900k are o performanta cu 58% mai buna ca 6700k.Uitate pe poza care am puso. Punct.Singurele abateri care apar aici sunt de sistem,abateri care sunt inerente fiecare avand memorii, placa de baza etc etc diferite.Dar procentele pe acolo sunt.

Singura varianta in care am gresit ar fi ca aia care au facut testul ala sa fi gresit ei dar testul e destul de vechi(cateva luni) si se sesiza careva pana acum . Oricum diferenta da exact cat calculasem eu cand am zis 24s+/- 1,5 .

LE: Pe tine te inteleg Monstrule stai linistit, ai o pozitie oarecum ingrata in cazul asta ca daca te apuci sa arunci cu pietre pe viitor apar probleme. Tu trebuie sa fii ca o balerina pe cand noi astia din popor putem sa ne comportam ca un elefant in magazinul cu portelanuri.
Doar ca deja reviewul de la hardwarecanucks imi confirma calculele din cate se poate vedea.

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Nu ti cont de ce a explicat Amok mai sus... In Blender diferenta de performanta depinde si de cat de complexa este scena si cat dureaza randarea. Si orice test cauti tu pe net va fi default cu 200 samples nu cu 100. Deci efectiv nu poti extrapola
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Daca tot ziceam de elefanti:
Cu un lucru cred ca esti de acord: AMD au ales o scena care sa avantajeze ryzen.
In conditia asta as extrapola acum si as zice ca exista sansa ca la o scena mai complexa sa iasa mai rau :P
Scena din testul hardwarechanucks are 144s pe cand asta amd are 37s pe 6700k...
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Din contra, cu cat e scena mai simpla cu atat diferenta este mai mica. Acum nici nu mai extrapolezi cum trebuie?
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Old 15-12-2016, 01:16   #55
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Scena simpla diferenta mica>scena complexa diferenta mare
Tot iese rau ryzen .
Dar e cam tarziu si maine munca asa ca hai sa mai extrapolam maine. Sau la un pahar de palinca dupa workshop
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Auzi la el...maine munca... da eu ce fac acum bre?
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Old 15-12-2016, 01:21   #57
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Din ce vad eu acum, Ryzen-ul de 8/16 si-o ia-n bot de la 6700k @ 4.5, care a obtinut FIX 34.28s cat a obtinut 3930k-ul lui Amok @ 4.4.

Sincer, mie mi se pare cam alandala Blender asta, sunt curios daca in alte aplicatii profi diferentele sunt tot pe-acolo.

Sa repet ca am activat GPU rendering si m-a troznit cu +50% timp? )

In fine, sa asteptam setarile exacte ale celor de la AMD, poate ne scapa ceva.
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Nu e alandala man, e alandala scena lor. Baga o scena real life de peste cateva minute si lucrurile stau altfel...
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Old 15-12-2016, 01:30   #59
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Intel Core i7 6950X - 4200MHz (10c/20t)
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16s - samples 100

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Ideea de baza este ca asta e un demo ales de ei pentru show. In 3DSMax, Maya sau Blender randezi deobicei treburi mai complexe si diferenta se vede mult mai usor. In fine... ne-a dat matei capac de tot cu scorul asta ))
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