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Old 19-11-2018, 12:23   #1201
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A nu se înțelege că recomand spread la orice pastă termică, doar explicam tehnica mai ușor de aplicat.
Dar la liquid doar spread-ul funcționează oricum.
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Old 19-11-2018, 12:40   #1202
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Eu nu vreau sa mai aud de liquid.
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Old 19-11-2018, 20:41   #1203
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Azi am facut schitele pentru shroud la sursa, placile plexic pentru mascare din carcasa. In ultima saptamana tot comand de la shop4pc piese la watercooling, mai tot apare cate o piesa care nu o am Cand ma gandesc la cate cabluri o sa am ma apuca groaza... In weekend sper sa fie gata.
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Old 19-11-2018, 21:46   #1204
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Succes!

Abia astept sa vad jucaria!
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Old 20-11-2018, 13:50   #1205
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Daca o incalzesti la temperatura de lucru a unui proc cum se comporta.
Ca la rece e irelevant.
Am lasat 2 zile in aer liber pe folia din cupru cele 3 paste:

Arctic Ceramique 2.

Kryonaut.

Pasta de la Aorus 1080Ti WB Extreme.






Ce am observat este ca pasta care a fost cel mai putin (deloc) "modificata" de factorii externi a fost Arctic Ceramique 2, parca abia o pusesem acolo.
Aceeasi consistenta, cremozitate, se intindea usor.

Pasta de la Aorus, mi-a parut foarte foarte putin mai tare insa tot cremoasa si usor de intins.

Kryonaut s-a uscat si a devenit parca mai rigida, daca incercam sa o intind se lua cu totul in bucatele, trebuia sa apas f tare cu spatula ca sa am sanse sa o intind uniform (cit de cit).
Am incalzit pentru circa 4 ore folia de cupru cu pastele pe ea la circa 100-110 grade celsius.

Cu folia calda am incercat sa vad ce si cum cu pastele:

Arctic Ceramique 2 a devenit parca un mic mai moale, mai "laptoasa", iar la intindere a fost flawless, se intindea ca o oja un pic intarita pe unghii, dar mult mai bine decit la temperatura camerei.

Pasta de la Aorus, s-a inchis un pic la culoare insa nu prea am observat schimbari la consistenta.
Kryonaut a devenit parca mai nisipoasa, cum e chitul de geam iar orice incercare de a o intinde pe folie se solda cu "mutarea" ei fara aderenta pe folie.

Preferinta mea ramine desigur Arctic Ceramique 2.
Totodata ieri am testat la o placa video GTX980 cele 3 paste sa vad temperatura in load.
Am pus de fiecare data pasta cit un bob de orez mai maricel si am aplicat coolerul placii, fan setat manual la 40 % si 5 min de furmark.

Aorus a avut circa 1 grad mai mult decit decit Arctic Ceramique 2 si Kryonaut, iar la scoaterea coolerului, Arctic Ceramique 2 a ramas lipita ferm atit pe cooler cit si pe
GPU die.

Aorus a ramas mai mult pe cooler si o parte pe GPU iar Kryonaut preponderent pe cooler.
Evident ca de fiecare data am sters bine si GPU die cit si talpa coolerului cu alcool izopropilic.
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Old 21-11-2018, 00:27   #1206
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Multam pentru rabdare man. Cam sus temperatura, dar eu unul chiar apreciez efortul. Putini l-am fi facut.
Deci case closed. Te pisi pe ea si mergi pe MX4 in continuare.
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Old 21-11-2018, 02:33   #1207
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Nu stiu cum este MX4 la viscozitate, imi place o pasta care se intinde frunos si simplu, cum este de ex vaselina siliconica clasica.

Ma enerveaza la culmea pastele care sint nisipoase, sfarimicioase, care nu se intind frumos.

Pentru 1-3 grade diferenta prefer o pasta care se intinde usor.

Oricum transferul termic DIE to IHS la CPU-uri actuale este in orice situatie, (chiar si soldered, dupa cum a demonstrat-o 9900K), mai PROST decit cea mai ieftina pasta termica pe care o folosesti intre IHS si Cooler..

Cit de frumos si usor se intinde MX4?

Nu am avut...
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Old 21-11-2018, 02:36   #1208
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Superb, e printre cele mai faine din punctul asta de vedere. Moale, cum trebuie. Cand pui heatsink-ul peste se aseaza perfect, nu simti ca-l asezi pe lut ca la Ceramique 2 daca pui boaba in centru.
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Pai sa-mi iau una sa vad ce si cum...

Multam de impresie.
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Oricum transferul termic DIE to IHS la CPU-uri actuale este in orice situatie, (chiar si soldered, dupa cum a demonstrat-o 9900K), mai PROST decit cea mai ieftina pasta termica pe care o folosesti intre IHS si Cooler..
problema nu e pasta termica folosita default, ci faptul ca banda aia de silicon negru pe care o folosesc pentru seal, e mai groasa, si atunci pasta termina sta foarte intinsa si nu face contact perfect.
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Old 21-11-2018, 13:09   #1211
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Ce o fi, principal este ca nu este cum trebuie sa fie.
De ce nu au pastrat "stilul" ca la 2600K?

De ce isi bat joc?
Pentru ca isi permit...
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Păi pentru enthuziasts e parcă mai bine. Ai posibilitatea să faci delid, îi pui tu ce pastă vrea mușchiu tău în speranța că vei scoate temperaturi mai bune.


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Sincer nu m-as baga la delid la 9900K.
Nu stiu cit de safe este sa incerc sa ii fac delid unui cpu lipit.
Si as cistiga ce?
Ceva grade in minus?
Da-l in mortii lui, sa stea si in 100-110 grade pina crapa.
E in garantie.
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cu siguranta e mai ieftin decat sa le faci soldered. Si cand vinzi milioane de cpu-uri, 1-2$ se aduna.
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Si reputatia fata de consumator se duce in pixda...

Inteleg capitalismul, dar sa nu uite de unde s-a plecat.

Intii au cumparat fraierii (userii, hamsterii, cobaii) care au facut ad hoc reclama free, apoi jmecherii au halit grosul.
Mai departe stiti si voi.
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Daca 9900k o sa ajunga la 100 grade pe racirea care o pun ii dau foc
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Reputatia inca e de "am Intel boss". Tin minte in liceu cand un prieten si-a luat Athlon4200 imi zicea ca are Pentium 4. Doar sa nu zica ca are AMD.
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Daca 9900k o sa ajunga la 100 grade pe racirea care o pun ii dau foc
1,34V pentru stabilitate la 5000MHz (cit de cit), 104 grade in prime cu AVX.

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Si reputatia fata de consumator se duce in pixda...
Daca se ducea, nu mai luai intel.
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Am luat din doua motive.

Mi-am scos bani buni pe un 7700K, am pus diferenta sa iau asta si deja procesorul si-a scos 1/4 din costuri in nici o luna.
Procesorul nu face numai gaming data...

Evident ca si speram ca lipitura sa fie cit de cit OK ca transfer termic.

Abia astept sa pice procul, service si service, adica garantie pina se satura...
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