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Old 28-10-2015, 05:52   #1
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Default Review - Samsung SM951 NVMe SSD

Samsung SM951   Discutam luni despre interfete pentru SSD-uri si de progresul pe care conectarea acestora prin interfata PCI-E il aduce. Ei bine, dincolo de interfata (PCI-E) si conector(PCI-E sau M.2), mai exista un aspect care poate limita performantele unitatii de stocare, iar acesta este protocolul de transfer al datelor, adica interfata software dintre unitatea […]

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Sa moara masa ce merge gusterele ==))))
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@Monstru: N-a dat vreun semn bestia ca ar suferi de niscaiva throttling? Din ce vazusem la Legitreviews situatia era destul de trista fara ca SSD-ul sa fie intr-o carcasa aerisita bine.



"When we let everything cool back down and re-did the test without the 120mm fan we noticed that the drive started to throttle at the 62 second mark. Our performance went from being ~1560 MB/s all they way down to 753 MB/s and then rising up to 879 MB/s during the throttle period. We plugged the fan back in at the 310 second mark and performance went right back up to ~1560 MB/s like nothing ever happened."

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Old 28-10-2015, 17:12   #5
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cu o latenta mai mica decat AHCI (2.8 um fata de 6um)
Ce reprezinta um?
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miu s, am corectat.

carcozep - asta testat de mine sta in mod normal intr-un laptop si merge bine mersi... Trage tu concluzia
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@Monstru: Ori are parte de airflow in partea aceea a carasei laptopului ori atat Legitreviews cat si Techspot au primit niste dude care n-ar fi trebuit sa treaca de QC

[YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=d3GlInzvHr8[/YT]

http://www.techspot.com/news/62580-s...e-preview.html

Dupa nici 4GB se duce in pom viteza. Da, este mai mare in continuare fata de ce-ti ofera un SSD pe SATA-III, dar faptul ca pierzi atat de repede din performanta nu-i un semn bun Requires further investigation?
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Nu stiu ce au testat si in ce conditii. Stiu doar ca SSD-urile astea sunt deja integrate in laptop-uri iar aia nu isi permit sa greseasca.
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O serie HP Pavilion a beneficiat de niste modele WD care zburau in 60+ grade cum incepeai defragmentarea. Asa ca da, pot gresi si ei

Interfata Nvme e singura care poate sa foloseasca avantajul PCI-Ex, iar oferta la ora actuala sta asa: Intel 750 care vine numai la pachet cu un radiator cat China comunista pe el si Samsung SM951/950 Pro. Ca producator de laptopuri daca vrei sa integrezi ceva care sa nu sufere limitarile AHCI nu prea ai de ales momentan. Daca au pus cu cap slotul M.2 in asa fel incat incalzirea lui excesiva sa nu afecteze alte componente ale laptopului [cough, Intel NUC, cough], bravo lor, dar tot nu rezolva problema throttlingului
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Sa le puna radiatoare in mama ma-sii daca au probleme din astea.
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Pentru ca cei de la Samsung sunt sadici, lasa treaba asta pe mana cumparatorului



[OC3D] Samsung SM951 512GB M.2 SSD (alternative to Intel SSD 750) - Page 3

[Official] Samsung SM951 Owners Club - Page 35

256gb SM951 nvme slow read/write speed after 10 mins in Windows 10

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"Did a little load testing copying some ISOs within the same folder. Results below, you can see that i managed to hit 82C, at which point my speed dropped to ~45MBps. It quickly (within 10 seconds) recovered and continued at ~600MBps." [din acelasi thread cu SM951 owner's club de pe Overclock.net, p.42]

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Suportul pentru NVME se poate adăuga în BIOS cam la orice placă de bază mai recentă, dar problema e că laptopul meu nu are port din ăsta, deci acum parcă am motiv de upgrade...
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@Monstru: Ori are parte de airflow in partea aceea a carasei laptopului ori atat Legitreviews cat si Techspot au primit niste dude care n-ar fi trebuit sa treaca de QC

Dupa nici 4GB se duce in pom viteza. Da, este mai mare in continuare fata de ce-ti ofera un SSD pe SATA-III, dar faptul ca pierzi atat de repede din performanta nu-i un semn bun Requires further investigation?
Samsung 950 Pro dupa 30GB copiati. Pe masa de teste, fara nici un ventilator in zona... Urmeaza review in curand
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@Monstru: TL;DR : Samsung 950 Pro, performanta identica sau mai buna ca SM951, acum fara calorii throttling [dar tot cu temperaturi ridicate ]
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Mi se pare inoportuna folosirea aceastui ssd in laptopuri daca ridica temperatura atat de mult. Temperatura ridicata in laptop = moarte prematura.

Bine, problema este undeva mai mare. E un fel de "But why?". Daca trecerea de la hdd-urile mecanice la ssd-uri a facut ca totul sa se miste foarte repede, incarcarea OS-ului, incarcarea jocurilor etc, diferenta de la un ssd sata decent la un ssd pci-express, indiferent de forma sa este acompaniata de un spor de performanta minor in viata de zi cu zi. Poate programele care folosesc intens stocarea sa beneficieze mai mult de acestea, dar altfel e doar un EPEEN mai mare.
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Pe mine mă interesează comportamentul în transferuri paralele, acolo e adevăratul bottleneck. Sistemul de operare scrie nu-ştiu-ce, vreun program îşi face update, nu'ş ce joc încarcă o hartă şi mai iei şi-un pr0n de pe torenţi.
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