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Old 03-04-2020, 16:21   #1
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Exclamation Pc streaming opinie despre sursa urgent.

Buna ziua. Urmeaza sa imi achizitionez urmatoarele componente dar nu stiu daca ma tine sursa cum trebuie deoarece o sa fac si streaming YT si TWITCH.

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Sursa : keep out 800w 85+ eficienta bronze

Intrebarea mea este o sa ma tina sursa pentru a juca stream si idle?
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Pana la sursa ar fi bine sa te mai gandesti mai ales pe partea de stocare, de ce 2x128 ssd in anul de gratie 2020??? ia ceva de minim 480GB. E suficienta o bucata ca raid 0 nu se merita la ssd mai ales daca e nvme iar raid 1 e cam scump. Si la hard iarasi, 1tb cand vrei sa ai de a face cu chestii video? Daca inregistrezi ceva si vrei sa editezi etc o sa se umple hardul ala cat ai zice peste....

Pe partea de sursa 800w e mai mult decat o sa ai nevoie cu ce pui tu pe acolo dar e o no-name probabil o chinezarie luata la mia de bucati si pus un sticker cu brandul lor. Mai bine o sursa mai de calitate de 550-600w ca iti ajunge la ce ai nevoie.
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http://keep-out.eu/power_supply/FX800 asta este sursa specificata
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Old 03-04-2020, 16:47   #4
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Teoretic 800W 85+ sunt mai mult decat suficienti pentru ce sistem vrei sa cumperi.

Practic daca aia 800W 85+ nu sunt reali s-ar putea sa nu conteze decat protectiile cand face sursa poc.

Ideea e ca producatorul Keep out e indoielnic ca si firma in piata de surse. Poate sa fie ok sau sa nu fie ok.
Citeste pareri despre sursa aici.
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Old 03-04-2020, 17:01   #5
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Sursa e suficienta, eu stau cu 3700X cu OC si 2080 super pe 550W seasonic si nu gafaie.
Problema la tine e ca nu e de firma, ia altceva.
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https://lab501.ro/featured-articles/...960x-review/16
Monstru a testat un threadripper 3970 cu 2080ti si in load sistemul a tras 417W. 3700X a papat 206W. La care mai adaugi inca vreo 150 pentru placa video.
Eu zic ca 800W sunt cam overkill pentru ce vrei tu. 550W sunt mai mult decat suficienti.
Poti, eventual, sa mergi pe ceva de genu 600-650W, ca sa nu aiba incarcarea mare (procentuala) si sa ramana silentioasa in utilizare.
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Sursa deja o am , o detin . Si momentan am un buget limitat (Covid 19)

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Am cautat informatii destul si nimeni nu zice nimic de bine de brandul asta.
Defapt problema principala e ca nu exista informatii sau review-uri ci doar doar pareri negative.
E posibil sa mearga OK sistemul dar in anumite cazuri o sa faca poc si o sa ia dupa ea diverse piese, gen placa de baza, poate si procesoru etc, nimeni nu stie fiindca nu a fost testata.

Ia altceva si vinde-o pe asta, personal as lua 3700X sau 3800X de pe forum de la @Iubitel daca mai are, placa de baza la fel si de banii scutiti vs magazin as lua sursa calitativa, sesonic, corsair etc

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Seasonic S12II-620 Bronze 620W ? este ok ? ( Astept recomandare de pe PCGARAGE (de acolo achizitionez mai multe buget mic ( 200-350 lei)

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Da. La nevoie, chiar si cea de 520 e suficienta.

Cu cea de 520 am facut 2 sisteme, foarte silentioasa. Cea de 620 cred ca e sweetspot.
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Am achitionat Sursa Seasonic Focus GX, 80+ Gold, 650W [ FOCUS-GX-650 ] sa fie bine poate mai pun cate ceva pe pc . Mersi mult

• #1487666 SSD Kingston A400 120GB SATA-III 2.5 inch [ SA400S37/120G ] (1 buc x 143,36 RON) Disponibilitate: Stoc magazin suficient
• #1726464 Microfon Trust GXT 232 MANTIS [ TRU22656 ] (1 buc x 163,99 RON) Disponibilitate: Stoc magazin limitat
• #1788996 Cooler CPU SilentiumPC Navis RGB 240 [ SPC219 ] (1 buc x 432,48 RON) Disponibilitate: Stoc magazin limitat
• #1893866 Procesor AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9GHz box [ 100-100000025BOX ] (1 buc x 2.151,80 RON) Disponibilitate: Stoc magazin suficient
• #1905526 Placa de baza MSI MPG X570 GAMING PLUS [ MPG X570 GAMING PLUS ] (1 buc x 1.011,29 RON) Disponibilitate: Stoc magazin suficient
• #1943026 Sursa Seasonic Focus GX, 80+ Gold, 650W [ FOCUS-GX-650 ] (1 buc x 499,64 RON) Disponibilitate: Stoc magazin suficient
• #1978278 Ventilator / radiator Floston Halo RGB Three Fan Pack [ HALO RGB LED3xfan KIT ] (1 buc x 112,63 RON) Disponibilitate: Stoc magazin suficient
• #19721 Discount SSD A400 120GB SATA-III 2.5 inch: 8,00% [ RED_PB ] (-1 buc x 11,47 RON)
• #19721 Discount Microfon GXT 232 MANTIS [ RED_PB ] (-1 buc x 25,00 RON)
• #19721 Discount Cooler CPU Navis RGB 240: 12,00% [ RED_PB ] (-1 buc x 51,90 RON)
• #2011942 Gel Antibacterial Hygienium [ hyg_gel ] (1 buc x 19,99 RON) Disponibilitate: Stoc magazin suficient
• #19721 Reducere cfm. campanie publicitara [ RED_PB ] (-1 buc x 19,99 RON)
• #19721 Discount Procesor Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9GHz box: 17,00% [ RED_PB ] (-1 buc x 365,81 RON)
• #19721 Discount Placa de baza MPG X570 GAMING PLUS: 18,00% [ RED_PB ] (-1 buc x 182,03 RON)
• #19721 Discount Sursa Focus GX, 80+ Gold, 650W: 5,00% [ RED_PB ] (-1 buc x 24,98 RON)
• #19721 Discount Ventilator / radiator Halo RGB Three Fan Pack: 15,00% [ RED_PB ] (-1 buc x 16,90 RON)

Sa-mi spuneti de coolerul acela care este treaba cu el , merita ? sau sa-l scot

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O sursa brand de putere mai mica este intotdeuna recomandata fata de un no-name de putere mai mare. Tine Focusul ala tot ce vrei sa pui tu acolo si nici macar nu gafaie, ventilatorul va sta mai mult in idle.
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acuma per total , configuratia system-ului cum este pentru streaming? Oricum deja le-am comandat dar poate fac retur
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E ok, dar cum ziceau baietii, ia un singur SSD mai mare
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Aaaaa si am uitat de carcasa am o carcasa enermax ostrog 3253 si am nevoie de o parere ca i pun water cooling. Pareri de carcasa? Este ok montaju liquid pe tavan? Alt undeva nu stiu unde s ar incadra in carcasa.
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Suporta sus 2 ventilatoare de 140, deci poti monta acel cooler (are 275mm lungime). O posibila problema e radiatorul+vents vor lovi in placa de baza.



O solutie ar fi sa pui ventilatoarele pe exteriorul carcasei, dar nu stiu cum afecteaza performanta cooler-ului si zgomotul.
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Nu gasesti placa asta de baza mai ieftin pe la tine?
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Nu gasesti placa asta de baza mai ieftin pe la tine?
ASUS TUF Gaming X570-Plus
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Din ce am cercetat pe net low-costurile MSI pe x570 au cele mai slabe vrm-uri...
Daca nu iti permiti ca buget ce ti s-a recomandat mai sus, in functie de ce dotari vrei(porturi usb, audio etc) poate ar fi mai bine sa te orientezi spre gigabyte(x570 ud, x570 gaming x), ASUS PRIME X570-P, sau low-end de pe la asrock. Binenteles vb. de placi cu x570.
Si sa fii atent si la cum au dispusi conectorii pentru ventilatoare sa nu injuri ca nu ajung cablurile mai tarziu si sa umbli dupa prelungitoare
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Pipal, eu am 550w superflower si a mers perfect cu 7700k oc + 1080ti, merge in continuare perfect cu 3900x + 2080.

Ce pot sa va zic e ca la fluctuatii de tensiune, colegii cu corsait vs series si thermaltake toughpower isi iau restart, eu nu am treaba.

Da, o sursa buna e scumpa, dar totodata 15 ani nu mai ai treaba.
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Eu am facut aproape 8-9 ani cu Seasonic-ul S12-II 620W si intr-un final a ajuns donata, pariu ca inca ma mai tine ani buni.
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