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Old 06-11-2019, 12:43   #1
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Default Intel 9900k vs AMD 3700x vs AMD 3900x

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Ma bate gandul sa retrag legendarul Sandy 2600k intr-un file storage si sa imi schimb platforma. Am un GTX 1070 si un monitor Acer 1440p 144hz , plus inca vreo 2 monitoare pentru alte chestii.

De obicei rulez cel putin o masina virtuala pe un monitor plus ceva monitorizare camere video pe alt monitor (merge doar pe Internet explorer si ia vreo 20% din procesorul curent).

Ca preturi un kit de 9900k e similar cu 3700x iar un kit de 3900x pare sa fie cu aproape 800 RON mai scump decat un 9900k si sincer nu cred ca merita (ma refer la preturi de kituri la ce se vinde si aici pe forum).

Ca jocuri, ma joc mai mult jocuri Blizzard (WoW, SC2 - carora le cam plac procesoarele puternice) si ocazional shootere.

Sa merg pe 9900k ?
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:55   #2
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Intre 9900k si 3900x sunt 200-300 ron diferenta si 3700x este cu 900ron mai ieftin. Eu as merge pe 3900x daca tot ai buget
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Old 06-11-2019, 12:59   #3
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Ma refeream la preturi la baieti, nu preturi de magazin . Gen :

1) Kit Intel 9900k

- procesor Intel Core i9 9900k
- placa de baza Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Ultra
- 32 gb ddr 2666 mhz Crucial Ballistix
Pret 3185 lei + transport.


2) Kit AMD Ryzen 7 3700x:

- procesor AMD Ryzen 7 3700x
- placa de baza Asus Prime X570 Pro
- 32 gb (2 x 16 gb) ddr4 3200 mhz Kingston HyperX sigilat
Pret 2930 lei + transport.


3) Kit AMD Ryzen 9 3900x:

- procesor AMD Ryzen 9 3900x
- placa de baza Asus Prime X570 Pro
- 2 x 16 gb (32 gb) ddr4 3200 mhz Kingston HyperX, sigilate
Pret 4000 lei + transport.
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Am.eu o oferta mai buna ca si ce ai gasit, ai pm

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Old 07-11-2019, 14:38   #5
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Imi cer scuze daca ma bag si eu ca musca in lapte dar sunt in aceeasi situatie - de fapt una mai slaba - am o platforma bazata pe 2500K + asus p67 deluxe + 16gb: merita un upgrade daca ma joc numai Doom sau jocuri mai vechi gen D3, CoH2?
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Pentru virtualizare recomand cat mai multe core-uri!
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@maestru probabil un ugrade nu strica daca iti permiti , oricum vorbeste cu @Iubitel poate gasesti ceva pentru bugetul tau.
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Old 15-11-2019, 22:39   #8
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Hai ca am luat un 3700x si 64GB de HyperX Predator 3200 CL16. Ma uitam la placile x570 (de ex Aorus X570 Master) si mi-a scapat privirea si la un X470 Ultra. 600 RON pentru o placa de baza noua cu garantie ?

Apoi m-am uitat pe review-uri :

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/a...on-x470/6.html

Acum am dubii daca sa dau inca 600 RON in plus pe un X570 nou , dar fara garantie. O sa merg cel mai probabil pe x570, dar e destul de frustrant sa vezi diferenta aia de pret

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ideea e ca totul o sa fie mai rapid, de la pci express, gpu 4.0, ssd, usb, internet 10gbps, wifi samd.
600 de lei pe 24 de luni inseamna 25 lei pe luna ca sa ai totul maximizat, drivere, bios.
eu zic ca merita, cu conditia sa iei si cu garantie, sa fie la o adica.
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Aorus Master e 1800 cu garantie. De 3 ori mai scumpa. O sa mearga si fara garantie.
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Old 16-11-2019, 00:21   #11
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Sa fim seriosi, as lua x470 any day of the week la 600 de lei.
Diferenta aia de performanta daca inseamna 1-2% e bine, pt ca oricum placi video pci-e 4.0 nu sunt (si oricum nu e diferenta intre 3.0 si 4.0) si ssd-urile pci-e 3.0 sunt oricum arhi suficiente.
10gbps iar e fix nimic, la fel cum sunt si usb-urile chipurile mai rapide.
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Am luat un MSI Gaming x470 M7 AC si l-am cuplat cu un 3700x si 4*16 GB RAM HyperX Predator 3200 CL16. Merge by default XMP-ul lui la 3200 16-18-18-36-74-2T. Urmeaza sa vad daca se mai poate face ceva tweaking.

Cred ca trebuie sa fac enable la power saving in BIOS, ca vad ca sta procul constant la 4300
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3700x mi se pare o alegere inteleapta, e procesorul bun la toate si prietenos si cu bugetul, chiar i l-am recomandat cuiva intr-un rig cand aparusera, am avut onoarea si sa asamblez si sa vad de ce e in stare.

Placa de baza daca e 400 series e buna de la MSI, au avut cel mai bun VRM de departe pe 400 series, am un B450 Tomahawk si un B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC, rivalizeaza cu multe x470 si x570 chiar.

Daca tot este procesor cu X, de ce nu ii dai Precision Boost Overdrive on din BIOS si autooverclock din Ryzen Master? Sa te bucuri de tot ce are de oferit procesorul, asta bineinteles daca ai un cooler adecvat.
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Am incercat sa il las pe auto, dar ii da mult prea mare voltajul. Se pare ca 4300 venea de la un profil de OC al MSI-ului, sunt ok cu el si voltajul e mai scazut decat ce e by default fara nici un OC. O sa incerc sa il mai bibilesc zilele astea, dar "if it ain't broken, don't fix it".

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Am incercat sa il las pe auto, dar ii da mult prea mare voltajul. Se pare ca 4300 venea de la un profil de OC al MSI-ului, sunt ok cu el si voltajul e mai scazut decat ce e by default fara nici un OC. O sa incerc sa il mai bibilesc zilele astea, dar "if it ain't broken, don't fix it".

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Eu cu coolerul ala, il tineam cum ti-am zis deja, PBO on din BIOS si AutoOC din Ryzen Master, dar e decizia ta... Iar cu voltajul, daca ai ultimul BIOS si ultimul chipset driver instalat nu iti face griji, nu are cum sa se sinucida procul.
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Nu am ultimul BIOS, ca face probleme cu memoria si cold boot. O sa incerc si PBO si vedem
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