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Old 31-05-2017, 18:54   #5681
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mai multe pcie lanes nu ajută dacă ai mai multe ssd-uri M.2?
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Old 31-05-2017, 21:40   #5682
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Threadripper Specs (known so far)

https://videocardz.com/70093/amd-ryz...-64-pcie-lanes
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Old 31-05-2017, 22:58   #5683
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mai multe pcie lanes nu ajută dacă ai mai multe ssd-uri M.2?
Te ajută... dar 40 sunt la fix pentru 2x GPU 16x şi 2x SSD M.2 (16+16+4+4), asta dacă suportă placa de bază 2x16X.
6800K-ul meu are 28 PIC Express lanes, am un 16x la GPU şi încă 4x la M.2 - total 20, rămân 8 de sămânţă. La nevoie, fac upgrade la 6850K sau 6900K şi iacă am 40 PCI Express lanes.

Nu zic că nu le poţi umple pe toate, cu ceva storage PCI Express, SLi şi ceva video capture pe PCI express poţi depăşi şi 40 lejer, dar la asemenea configuraţii deja trebuie să te gândeşti la workstation.
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Old 31-05-2017, 23:21   #5684
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Controllerele SATA parca folosesc si ele un PCI-e Lane per controller.

Cu mai multe lane-uri ne putem trezi si cu vreo 20x porturi SATA pe o mobo (cam ce mi-ar trebui mie. ) )
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Old 31-05-2017, 23:30   #5685
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O sa bage sata 12G care pe servere este de ceva timp... se gaseste intrebuintare.
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Old 31-05-2017, 23:32   #5686
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sau SAS...
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Old 01-06-2017, 01:38   #5687
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nu stiu de unde ai scos SATA 12 Gbps, pe servere e SAS 12Gbps si SATA 6Gbps. Se trece incet pe storage PCIe si NVMe. Limita e data de cate pci-e lanes scoti din procesor.
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Old 01-06-2017, 02:34   #5688
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Tocmai azi cautam ceva despre SATA 4 si cica se zvoneau 16gbps.

Nu e util sa se treaca complet pe PCIe sau NVMe din cauza spatiului ocupat.
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https://www.techpowerup.com/233945/a...dripper-models

"AMD, which announced its Ryzen Threadripper HEDT processor at its 2017 Computex show, closely followed by certain motherboard manufacturers' unveiling of their compatible AMD X399 chipset motherboards; is readying nine SKUs based on the dual "Summit Ridge" MCM. This includes 10-core (3+2+3+2), 12-core (3+3+3+3), 14-core (4+3+4+3), and 16-core (4+4+4+4) models, all of which have SMT enabled, resulting in 20, 24, 28, and 32 threads, respectively; full 64-lane PCI-Express gen 3.0 root-complexes; and full quad-channel DDR4 memory interfaces. Some of these models with the "X" brand extension feature XFR (extended frequency range), which adds 200 MHz to the boost clock, if the cooling is sufficient.

The lineup is led by the 16-core/32-thread Ryzen Threadripper 1998X, with a healthy clock speed of 3.50 GHz, and 3.90 GHz boost, a TDP of 155W, and XFR. This is closely followed by the 16-core/32-thread 1998, clocked lower, at 3.20 GHz with 3.60 GHz boost, 155W TDP, and lack of XFR. The 16-core chips are followed by 14-core models. The 14-core/28-thread Ryzen Threadripper 1977X ships with 3.50 GHz core clock speed, but 4.00 GHz boost, XFR, and the same 155W TDP as the 16-core parts. This is closely followed by the 14-core/28-thread 1977 (non-X), with lower clocks of 3.20 GHz core, 3.70 GHz boost, and again, the same 155W TDP."

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AMD Ryzen Threadripper: 64 PCIe lanes and support for 2 TB of RAM
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Tocmai azi cautam ceva despre SATA 4 si cica se zvoneau 16gbps.

Nu e util sa se treaca complet pe PCIe sau NVMe din cauza spatiului ocupat.
Form factorul care nu se preteaza e diferit de protocolul care nu se preteaza. Eu zic ca protocolul NVMe pe PCIe este ok. Trebuie sa facem conectori corespunzatori. De exemplu, conectorul U.2 era ok, doar ca e limitat la 2 lane-uri de PCIe. Facem un conector similar cu 4 lane-uri sau, de ce nu, maxim 8 / 16 lane-uri si la celalalt capat 4 conectori SAS-like care sa se conecteze la drive-uri de 2.5 inch. Exista deja drive-uri de 2.5 inch NVMe (vezi intel 750 si Toshiba XG3 OEM), deci treaba e pe jumatate rezolvata.

Degeaba facem controllere SATA 16Gbps sa zicem, cu 8 porturi, daca tot linkul dintre chipset si procesor este echivalent cu 4 lane-uri PCI Express.
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Old 01-06-2017, 14:29   #5691
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Sau asa. Eu ma refeream la faptul ca, odata ce devin disponibile mai multe lane-uri se pot face si controllere care sa foloseasca mai multe. Gen 2-3-4 controllere pe aceeasi pastila, care sa foloseasca 4-8-12 samd.

Bine, un utilizator normal n-are nevoie de atatea porturi, dar mie unul mi-ar placea sa am o expansiune de genul asta. Sau macar sa pot pune o placa de extensie in PCI-E, fara niciun fel de chipset care sa gestioneze/limiteze transferul (nu ma intereseaza RAID de ex) si care sa-mi ofere inca x porturi SATA3 gestionate de controllerul on board de pe mobo(care sa fie facut sa foloseasca n lane-uri incat sa nu limiteze numarul maxim de drive-uri conectabile la el). Chiar daca nu are decat sa zicem 6-8 porturi SATA pe Mobo.
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HBA + Storage Spaces? https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/...storage-spaces

Gata cu offtopic, hai sa revenim la stiri cu AMD.
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Holy shit, la asta nu ma asteptam. Better start building that shrine for AMD.
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Imi place ca sunt agresivi in preturi, dar intrebarea este daca le raman suficienti bani dupa ce vand procesoarele.
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Precis ilustrele magazine din .ro nu or sa faca astfel de reduceri ca tare as lua un 1600x sau 1700 x )


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Imi place ca sunt agresivi in preturi, dar intrebarea este daca le raman suficienti bani dupa ce vand procesoarele.
Eu spun ca da,categoric!S-a dus in sus doar performanta/pret ceea ce ne creeaza un miraj.Dar preturile nu-s chiar mici,sub 1000 lei n-au decat vreo 2 procesoare.
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Eu zic ca-s chiar mai destepti. Cred ca si-au luat in calcul ca profiturile de pe CPU-uri sa sustina si divizia GPU, care nu e cu toate roz momentan.
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AMD Ryzen ThreadRipper 16C/32T rumored to cost just $849
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Posibile probleme cu procesorul:

http://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=ne...ompiler-Issues
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