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Old 22-10-2019, 19:05   #2121
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Soon: BATMAN!



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Old 28-10-2019, 19:14   #2122
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HERE'S BATMAN!!!

Nume de cod:

* Premiere PCI ED (Batman) 60MHz *** Intel PREMIERE/PCI *** Intel Batman *** P5-PCI BATMAN
* AA 624415-211 *** PBA 623667-211 *** PB 631446-001

In acest episod urmeaza sa va prezint o placa de baza made by Intel ce poarta numele de cod "BATMAN". In the wild putem gasi doua variante ale acestei placi de baza in functie de procesoarele pe care le suporta: Batman - Pentium 60 si Batman's Revenge - Pentium 60/66. Diferenta se poate observa si cu ochiul liber, varianta "Batman" nu are componentele VRM necesare pentru a suporta procesoare Pentium la 66MHz. Asta cel putin oficial.

La o prima vedere, atunci cand am cumparat placa de baza prezentata in acest episod, am crezut ca am in posesie varianta Batman insa la P.O.S.T. am observat altceva. Batman sau Batman's Revenge, lipsa componentelor VRM s-ar traduce intr-un suport nu tocmai ideal al procesoarelor Pentium la 66MHz. But this is for later.

http://www.elhvb.com/mboards/intel/index.html

1.00.xx.AF1: Premiere/PCI Expandable Desktop (Batman)
1.00.xx.AF2: Premiere/PCI ED (Batman's Revenge)

http://pcrebuilding.altervista.org/2...op+Boards.html

http://www.dewassoc.com/systems/comp...telmbrefer.htm

"Batman was Intel's first TTM("Time To Market") motherboard and its goal was to ensure the early success of the first Pentium."

https://www.tomshardware.fr/16-ans-d...meres-intel-2/

Acum ca am pregatit arena, urmeaza sa ne desfasuram in voie.

Placa de baza prezentata in acest episod a fost cumparata ca fiind "partial defecta". Aceasta functiona insa BIOS-ul nu putea fi accesat. Acest fapt nu m-a deranjat catusi de putin. Batman e Batman si in mizerie.

Pentru o suma modica (din punctul meu de vedere) a fost a mea. Am asteptat cu infrigurare coletul. Vedeti voi, acum cativa ani, priveam poze pe internet si salivam la Batman. Not anymore. I got my grubby hands on one and I'm not letting it go easily.

THE PACKAGE HAS ARRIVED!



Let's see what has the cat dragged in.

Would you look at that. The little Bat who thinks is THE BATMAN!!!



Inca nu stiam care ar fi problema care facea ca BIOS-ul sa nu poata fi accesat, insa inainte de chestia asta aveam alta "durere de cap". Lipsa unui procesor Pentium la 60MHz - Socket 4.

Inca de cand m-am uitat la pozele cu placa de baza, dupa ce am verficat setarile din jumperi vs manual, am dedus ca placa a avut un P60 insa vanzatorul mi-a comunicat ca acesta nu este sub nici o forma de vanzare.

Aveam in posesie un P66 care era montat pe placa ASUS PCI/I-P5MP3 si as fi putut sa-l folosesc insa am decis sa astept pana imi va pica un gheara un P60.

Avand in vedere ca placa de baza era destul de curata am decis sa nu o supun la tortura in my dungeon, unde la intrare scrie: "BEWARE! Lots of torture cleaning ahead!" si m-am rezumat doar la a face cateva poze.



Dupa circa 4 luni de zile de cand am cumparat placa de baza, by a stroke of luck, am gasit un P60 chiar in Brasov.

Din nou, pentru o suma modica (din punctul meu de vedere) am cumparat un P60 SX835 care s-a potrivit de minune cu Batman. A match made in Heaven.

Procesorul facuse parte dintr-un lot de scrap si am avut mare noroc ca am putut sa-l cumpar. Nu arata prea bine si trebuit sa indrept mai multi pini insa treaba a mers snur. "Forta" necesara pentru indreptarea pinilor unui procesor de Socket 4 este mai mare decat in cazul procesoarele de Socket 3 sau 7 si aceasta mi-a ramas intiparita in degete. La fel, greutatea P60-ului mi-a ramas si ea intiparita in memorie. Poti simti acea "greutate" cand il ai in mana. This is something SOLID, let me tell you.


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Old 28-10-2019, 19:14   #2123
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A urmat momentul in care am dat o cheie la "monstrul" Socket 4 to see what's what.



Va vorbeam mai sus de Batman si Batman's Revenge.

1.00.xx.AF1: Premiere/PCI Expandable Desktop (Batman)
1.00.xx.AF2: Premiere/PCI ED (Batman's Revenge)

La P.O.S.T. ma asteptam ca sa vad 1.00.xx.AF1 insa pe ecran scria alb pe negru: 1.00.xx.AF2.



Lipsa componentelor VRM spunea altceva.



Well, este posibil ca placa sa fie Batman cu BIOS de Batman's Revenge ... In cele din urma am decis sa numesc placa asta doar Batman si atat.

Am rulat un SpeedSys 4.78 si intradevar, placa de baza mergea struna.



In BIOS insa nu puteam intra.

Initial am vrut sa scot chipul de BIOS de pe placa si sa-l rescriu. Urma apoi sa montez un socket PLCC32.

Totusi problema nu parea sa fie legata de informatia din BIOS.

Mi-am indreptat atentia catre bateria RTC Dallas DS12887 insa din nou nu am vrut sa ma bag la un CR2032 mod pentru ca necesita destula munca si doream sa o keep it simple.

Am cautat pe internet si am gasit o solutie eleganta si foarte la indemana.

https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php...762433#p762433

Altii ca mine au avut aceeasi problema legata de accesarea BIOS-ului.

https://www.vogons.org/viewtopic.php...762433#p762433

Deoarece bateria RTC/CMOS Dallas DS12887 este demult moarta, sistemul nu stia in ce data se alfa si acest fapt a facut ca BIOS-ul sa nu poata fi accesat.

Utilitarul G-SETUP, 286,386 Generic BIOS Setup Program - Bypass system BIOS program utility DOS 1996 permite modificare setarilor din BIOS direct din DOS.

http://ibm-pc.org/utilities/system/system.htm

Hai sa vedem daca chiar asta a fost solutia.

Before. Ora 99:106:23. Data 99/91/55103.



After. Dupa ce am introdus niste date mai "omenesti".



Did it work? ... check for yourselves!



Am simtit o mare satisfactie cand am reusit sa extermin all the gremlins from the system.

Am turat putin motoarele sa vad daca nu pusca ceva. Petiumul la 60, SX835, are si el the all important FDIV bug! YAY! Another gem in my ever growing collection.

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Old 28-10-2019, 19:15   #2124
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Placa Intel Batman are un BIOS spartan in comparatie cu ASUS PCI/I-P5MP3 si nu am putut stoarce prea multa peformanta in plus. Chiar si asa un P60 still packs a punch.

P60+Intel Batman vs P66+ASUS PCI/I-P5MP3



P60+Intel Batman BFFs!!!



Ceva insa ma tot zgandarea. Adica sa pun mana pe un kit Socket 4 si sa nu treaca prin procedura de curatare? That's blasphemy!

Dupa un test, cu un betigas de vata si IPA 99%, am ajuns la concluzia ca aceasta placa de baza is in a desperate need of cleaning! I know that I was looking for excuses ...



Am reusit insa sa duc placa asta to the next level in regard to its looks?

Well, I hate to brag, but I did get way better results than before.

Check it out!



Restored to perfection! Just the way I like it!

Aceasta a fost povestea celei de-a doua platforme Socket 4 din visteria mea. Socket 4 doesnt pop up very often asa ca ma simt extrem de norocos sa am asa ceva in posesie.

All the original Pentiums are in my hands, FDIV bug and all. Shinier and looking better than the day they were born.

Stay tuned for more great episodes!

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Old 03-11-2019, 17:02   #2125
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Holter & Mogyoro - All Our Mistakes

Marfa la greu azi in talciocul din Brasov! (Metrom si Bartolomeu)

A trebuit sa fiu fffff selectiv.

1. Pentium 4 s423 Willamette 1.9GHZ SL5VN - 20 de lei. Am P4 s423 la 1.3, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6,1.7 si 1.9. Lipesc doar 1.8 si 2.0. YAY!
2. STB Velocity-128 VBX AGP - RIVA 128ZX - missing a heatsink and one ceramic capacitor. Both easy fixes - 10 lei.
3. Enermax EG365AX-VE(G) - 20 de lei - NO BRAINER! Heavy as HELL!!!
4. Heatsinks - 15 lei. RIP!



Am lasat in urma:

1. Sapphire ATI 4870 1GB
2. Abit KD7 - swollen caps
3. nVIDIA 580 GTX
4. s775 stuff
5. HDDs galore
6. ODDs galore
7. s754 stuff
8. ATI RAGE 128 - 2 buc
9. 8800GT
10. ASUS 1070 GTX - la 500 de lei - minata sau nu ... nu am de unde sa stiu
11. Lots of heatsinks
12. s462 stuff
13. Lots of RAM
14. Thermaltake ToughPower 550W
15. Some s1366 stufff from Dell or HP
16. ATI stuff
17. Procesoare
18. 10-12 ventilatoare de 486 - NIB
19. SS7 LS 5MVP3
20. Riva TNT 2 - missing caps
21. Dual CPU motherboard(s)
22. Misc

Unele aveau probleme cosmetice altele erau mint.

I LOVE GOING TO THE LOCAL FLEA MARKET!!! <3!!!

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NEXT EPISODE: I.P.A. or the story of the illusive 100%



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2. STB Velocity-128 VBX AGP - RIVA 128ZX - missing a heatsink and one ceramic capacitor. Both easy fixes - 10 lei.
Sora ei mai mica (varianta non-ZX) a fost prima mea placa video cu accelerare 3D in 1999. Keep us posted

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Daca tot vorbiti de Riva 128/ZX, n-am avut niciodata (in perioada ei "utilizabila"), am avut un Rage Pro, apoi Voodoo2. Dar a avut un prieten de-al meu, era relativ rapida, dar calitatea imaginii lasa mult de dorit, cam tot ce tinea de transparente era nefiltrat (patratos), iar in mai multe jocuri anumite texturi apareau negre in totalitate.

Insa a fost o solutie de buget decenta o perioada, o placa buna 2D + Voodoo1 costa considerabil mai mult.

Chestia interesanta e ca in perioada aia Riva128 era chiar laudata, iar i740 criticata. Nu stiu de ce, la viteza erau cam la fel, ba chiar as spune ca i740 era mai rapida pe sisteme PII 350+, iar la calitatea imaginii i740 e indiscutabil cu mult peste Riva128.

Probabil au fost jocuri de culise, pe atunci nu erau nspe mii de canale pe youtube si nici atatea site-uri. Era tomshardware, anandtech, glideunderground si inca 2-3 relevante, plus revistele tiparite. Banuiesc ca Nvidia a trimis niste mici "atentii" si s-a rezolvat problema.
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Sora ei mai mica (varianta non-ZX) a fost prima mea placa video cu accelerare 3D in 1999. Keep us posted
Planul de recuperare a fost deja trasat. Heatsink-ul negru gasit ieri in talcioc este perfect fata de ce a avut placa inainte.



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Esti sigur ca placa avea heatsink de la mama ei? A mea cu siguranta nu avea nimic, am aruncat o privire si la niste poze de pe net si chipul e mereu la fel, in fundul gol.
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Pe a mea inca se vede urma de thermal adhesive. Heatsink-ul folosit inital pe placa mea este pentru MOSFETs si arata cel putin ciudat venind de la un producator ca STB. STB RIVA 128 si RIVA 128ZX au in general un heatsink. Si eu stiam ca RIVA 128 are chipul fara heatsink.


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The one and only!



Placile GIGI din acea perioada sunt favoritele mele. Heavy metal(copper) stuff! I LIKE IT!!!

This motherboard weighs A TON!

Dupa ce o sa termin cu ea o sa fie BLING-BLING !!!
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Ptiuuu ca aproape ai fost!

DQ6 insa X48! In orice caz GIGI a pastrat layout-ul de la X38 ca deh X48 nu era cine stie ce upgrade...



Back when I was a filthy peasant with a EP35-DS3R si E8400!!! Good TIMES!!! Vroiam un X38 insa not enough $$$. In schimb am dat 999.99 de lei pe 9800GTX si apoi dupa o luna a aparut seria GTX 200!!! GOOD TIMES!!! O sa tin minte asta cat traiesc!



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Am avut X38-DS5 la vremea ei, good stuff. Cat despre 9800GTX, am avut 9800GTX, 8800 Ultra si GTX 260, core 216, una dupa alta. Diferenta de perfomanta intre ele e foarte mica.
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