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Old 13-09-2019, 17:18   #7781
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Da bre dar TDP-ul ala de 65w la default ghz's si +65w in boost e pt. all core. Nu cred eu ca pe SINGLE CORE in boost de pana in 4,7Ghz se duce peste 65w. Daca se duce e bun de aruncat sau de facut clatite. Al meu 6600k care e totusi cateva generatii de "rafinare" in urma, nefiind 14+++++ ci doar 14+ (sau cat naiba o fi ) NU se duce in 65w pe single. De fapt ~65W ia doar in all core pe la 4,5-4,6Ghz in cinebench de ex. Si nu e chiar exemplar de pus pe HWBOT.
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Old 13-09-2019, 18:19   #7782
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Intel TDP

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Thermal Design Power (TDP) represents the average power, in watts, the processor dissipates when operating at Base Frequency with all cores active under an Intel-defined, high-complexity workload. Refer to Datasheet for thermal solution requirements.
Intel I7 4770K stock - TDP 85 W
Intel I7 4770K @ 4.1 GHz (all cores & HT) Ón Prime 95 blend test - Power Package 132 W.

OC + stres = + 55% Power
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Old 13-09-2019, 19:14   #7783
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i7 8700 in cinebench all cores consuma 55W (package)...deci limitare de la VRM sau de la racire in single core ma indoiesc sa existe.

Prime95 este cel mai prost exemplu pe care ai putea sa il dai. E ca furmark doar ca pentru procesoare.
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Old 13-09-2019, 20:55   #7784
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Consumul Ón W nu e egal cu TDP. Confunzi borcanele.
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Old 13-09-2019, 21:10   #7785
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Oricum consumul e mai mare sau egal cu TDP (ca doar nu poti sa bagi 100w de la priza si sa scoti 300w caldura ). Si din moment ce o placa de baza e facuta sa duca un CPU cu TDP de X wati atunci trebuie sa duca consum de cel putin X wati. Asa ca daca CPU-ul e rated la 65w VRM-ul trebuie sa fie capabil de cel putin atat. Simple logic. Restul ramane cum am stabilit, vorbeam de SINGLE core totusi sa nu o dam in "nu are curent destul" ca nu cred sa fie cazul decat daca ai nimerit un aparat de clatite in loc de CPU...
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Old 13-09-2019, 21:44   #7786
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Ok, deci lasand la o parte TDPul va zic ce am testat acum. i5 8600k pe stock cu AC Liquid Freezer 120, MB MSI Z370 Krait Gaming si Cinebench R15 single threaded, frecventa maxima pe care am observat-o este 4200MHz si 99% din test ruleaza la 4100MHz. Orice load as incerca sa ii dau singlethreaded nu ajunge niciodata la 4300 cat zic ei.

Deci si Intel minte legat de Turbo boost. De sarmanii astia de ce nu s-a luat lumea cand a scos seria 8000?

Sincer 25-100 MHz in singlethreaded nu fac nici o diferenta avand in vedere ca procesoarele AMD vin deja maxxed out.

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Da ma stiu, am 3700x, vad maxim 4375. Ideea e ca la 8700k vezi 4,7 numai cu MCE, care e considerat overclock, nu stock.
Deci, un badea gheorghe care infige un 8700k intr-un sistem si lasa totul stock, nu vede nici el 4,7 niciodata. Intelegi ce vreau sa spun?
Omu are dreptate.
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Old 14-09-2019, 15:31   #7787
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Instalează HWmonitor și folosește PC-ul Ón mod normal, fără alte teste, iar după o oră verifică la ce frecvențe a ajuns CPU.
După aceea vorbim.
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Old 14-09-2019, 18:22   #7788
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Instalează HWmonitor și folosește PC-ul Ón mod normal, fără alte teste, iar după o oră verifică la ce frecvențe a ajuns CPU.
După aceea vorbim.
cred ca HWmonitor are bugurile lui ori eu sunt campion......

ceva pareri/teste dupa noul bios pe ryzen, merge boost conform specificatiilor ?
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Old 14-09-2019, 19:13   #7789
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Hwmonitor ăla e un rahat. Iar pe amd e un rahat și mai mare.
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Hwmonitor ăla e un rahat. Iar pe amd e un rahat și mai mare.

cu x570 se pare ca nu e asa eronata citirea........sper
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Pe AMD nu știu dacă este exact, știu că pe intel nu a dat erori.
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Old 14-09-2019, 20:18   #7792
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HWiNFO64 sensors only .
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Hwinfo este tool-ul recomandat de AMD pentru monitorizare. Deci da... este practic ce ar trebui sa iei ca referinta.
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Am incercat si Hwinfo si Hwmonitor. Ambele arata la fel.
Stie cineva cum triggeruiesti frecventa boost maxima singlethreaded pe Intel?
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Foloseste 7zip sa arhivezi ceva cu un singur thread ?
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Old 28-09-2019, 16:31   #7797
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Rumor : AMD Zen 3 Architecture to Support up to 4 Threads Per Core With SMT4 Feature
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Intel right now:

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Daca asa e, le-o trage bine rau!

Poate atunci, noul meu Gaming PC va fi bazat pe AMD.
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