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Old 31-10-2020, 06:20   #1
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Salut! de curand mi-a revenit mania cu hardware-ul, ca deh pandemie... izolare... mult timp liber, asa ca m-am pus pe achizitionat jucarii.
De curand am cumparat urmatoarele :
MB : Huananzhi X99-GamingT8 - chipset C612 - 8x ddr3(?!? mai multe in continuare)
CPU : Intel Xeon E5-2686 V3 QS - 2ghz - max 3.5ghz 18c-32t 45mb cache
Mem : 8x 16gb pc3l-12900r - un stick a trebuit sa il rma si momentan folosesc un alt stick pc3-12800r ceea ce ma forteaza sa rulez toata memoria la 1.5v, preferabil ar fi fost 1.35v pt a ajuta mod-ul, comming soon.

restul componentelor sunt irelevante pentru mod.

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Acesta consta in stergerea microcode-ului din bios, dezactivarea starilor C3 si C6 si adaugarea unui driver de vcore/vmem offset in acesta.

Aici gasesti tot ce iti trebuie pentru acest mod : https://github.com/miyconst/Mi899/releases
Aici ai un ghid video cum sa executi mod-ul : [YT]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YymioiX9SFg&t=482s&ab_channel=Miyconst[/YT]

Beneficii :
Cu totii stim ca procesoarele xeon au multiplicatoarele de frecventa blocate, acest mod te poate ajuta sa folosesti procesorul la un multiplicator mai mare pe mai multe nuclee atata timp cat multiplicatorul nu depaseste plaja oferita de turbo boost si o limita de TDP(pe placi de baza brand este posibil ca acesta sa fie marit fata de setarile implicite ale procesorului, pe placa mea de baza sunt limitat la 120W TDP).
Cum functioneaza la mine acest mod:
Am doua limite aici, prima este multiplicatorul turbo boost maxim 35 si a doua este limita de 120w TDP. Prin aplicarea driverului de voltage offset in bios scad tdp-ul procesorului, lipsa microcode-ului din bios face ca placa de baza sa poate boosta la max multi toate core-urile atat timp cat limita maxima de tdp nu este depasita.
Rezultate :
Poza nr 1 : cinebench R20 vcore offset -40, vmem offset -20 aici procesorul bosteaza toate 18 core la 2.4ghz(default max 2.3ghz allcore)
Poza nr 2 : cinebench R20 vcore offset -90, vmem offset -20 aici procesorul boosteaza toate 18 core la 2.5ghz
Am incercat si vcore -90 vmem -50 dar nu ma ajuta deloc, se pare ca din cauza memoriei de 1.5v nu se comporta cum ar trebui.
Next : am comandat o placa de baza dd4, si ceva memorie pentru ea, sunt curios cum se comporta procesorul pe aceasta placa.
Mentionez ca procesorul este un Quality Sample OEM only, controlerele de memorie(2) suporta ddr3 1600/1866 ddr4 1600/1866/2166.

Daca mai esti vreun lga2011 user pe aici cu xeon zi si tu daca iti merge si ce ai castigat aici.
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Old 01-11-2020, 21:38   #2
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Cu totii stim ca procesoarele xeon au multiplicatoarele de frecventa blocate
Salutare, pai sunt blocate la E5 2xxx, probabil la ES nu sunt.
Cat scoate in Linpack? Vad ca toata lumea se fereste de Linpack. Eu reusesc sa tin stabil CPU in 4.33 si trece linpack all the time cu peak de 240 250W. La 4.4 si 4.5 trece toate testele mai putin Linpack, iar din punctul meu de vedere daca Linpack nu e trecut stabilitatea e 0 chiar daca duce restul testelor folosite de toti pe net.
M-a mancat si pe mine sa iau un E5 2xxx cu 450ron, cel cu 10cores, dar max turbo e 3 sau 3.3ghz si am zis pas. Ceva de 3.8-4 era de vis.
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cam asa arata linpak la mine, evident ca nu pot trece de 120w ca tdp dar l-am bibilit pana am reusit linpak la 2.5 allcore
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@db00m oricum ar fi vad ca da bine xeonu ala al tau, cu toate ca 250w pentru mine suna cam piperat, mai ales daca il tii daily asa.
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@db00m oricum ar fi vad ca da bine xeonu ala al tau, cu toate ca 250w pentru mine suna cam piperat, mai ales daca il tii daily asa.
Doar linpack reuseste sa stoarca 250w, am mai reusit 180 190w dar nu mai stiu cu ce, pentru daily tasks si games e intre 15-90w.

Probabil o sa ma bag la un E5-2660 v3, E5-1660 v3 nu am gasit la pret bun.
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recomand e5 2678 v3, este 12c 24t de 2.5 cu boost la 3.3, are tdp de 120w si cu mod-ul de turbo unlock sigur il duci la 3.1 3.2 all core
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recomand e5 2678 v3, este 12c 24t de 2.5 cu boost la 3.3, are tdp de 120w si cu mod-ul de turbo unlock sigur il duci la 3.1 3.2 all core
Baiul e ca nu apare in lista de CPU la Asus x99 a2. Momentan imi este lene sa extrag cpuid din bios. E5-2650 V3 l-am gasit la 450ron, inca mestec daca il iau sau nu.
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Am uitat sa imi urc Cache ratio ..pfff
Asta am stabil. Corectez cei 250W-270W, la 4.4 ajung acolo dar nu e stabil, probabil mai sunt de bibilit chestii dar nu mai am varsta si rabdarea de la Overdrive.
Rezultatele noi cu cache ratio 33x

Mai mentionez ca m-a durut mintea cu pasta termo, ajungeam la 108 C, dupa ceva vreme am desfacut, uns etc si am reusit sa mai scad din grade, Noctua NH-D15

Ultimele 2 sunt cu Stress CPU si 8gb Ram
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Baiul e ca nu apare in lista de CPU la Asus x99 a2. Momentan imi este lene sa extrag cpuid din bios. E5-2650 V3 l-am gasit la 450ron, inca mestec daca il iau sau nu.
pentru e5-2678 v3 nu iti trebuie microcode
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recomand e5 2678 v3, este 12c 24t de 2.5 cu boost la 3.3, are tdp de 120w si cu mod-ul de turbo unlock sigur il duci la 3.1 3.2 all core
L-am comandat, intr-o luna doua ajunge. Departe e China
Turbo mod am by default,cel putin a functionat pe E5 1620v3 -ul initial.

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Cam asta iese din E5 1650V3 @4.3 in combinatie cu 3090.
In comparatie cu 3900XT care e de 5x mai scump si ofera 10-25% extra mie mi se pare ca din 2015 pana in 2020 au fost prea multe generatii useless.
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Xeon v3 nu merita decat 2640 sau 2678, restul sunt fie prea scumpe fie prea lente.

Au inceput sa apara si Xeon V4 ieftine. Cine are deja placa x99 ok, merita luat astfel de procesor pe Aliexpress; in schimb, placile de baza chinezesti au tot felul de mici sau mari probleme.
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Xeon v3 nu merita decat 2640 sau 2678, restul sunt fie prea scumpe fie prea lente.

Au inceput sa apara si Xeon V4 ieftine. Cine are deja placa x99 ok, merita luat astfel de procesor pe Aliexpress; in schimb, placile de baza chinezesti au tot felul de mici sau mari probleme.
E5 1650V3 luat cu 400 sau 450ron vs 3900xt care e 2300ron, eu sunt PRO E5, bine, si 2678 luat cu sub 400ron. V4 nu suporta OC deloc, V3 1660 1680 sunt OC dar mult prea scumpe fata de un 1650V3.
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ai o placa x99 ok, deci dpdv value 4 money are sens sa iei un xeon ieftin strict pentru gaming. Platforma x99 + ddr 4 quad core + un xeon ok minim 8c / 16t, cu turbo boost unlock poate fi inca un sistem rezonabil.

Acum nu se mai gasesc astfel de placi x99 brandname si ieftine. Ca fost posesor chinezarie x99 (machinist), nu as recomanda-o decat celor care au timp de bibilit si obligatoriu au programator de bios acasa.

Later edit: in mesajul anterior ma refeream in special la e5 v3 din seria 2xxx, de la 8 core in sus, pentru spuneai de 2650 v3. Orice alt 2xxx intre 2640 si 2768 v3 nu merita, eu am avut 2640v3 si la banii ceruti de chinez era foarte ok.

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ai o placa x99 de la 8 core in sus, pentru ca tot mentiona colegul un 2650 v3.
Sper sa ajunga 2678V3 la Posta, deja e in RO din 13.11
O sa postez si cu el.
In mare m-am axat pe ceea ce iti aduce banul azi vs ieri.
Iar din punct de vedere al performantei nu vad o mare diferenta intre 2015-2020 per ansamblu la un sistem. Pe vremea Vanta 8mb vs 16mb era suficienta. Dupa cum am spus si in alt topic, marketing marketing..precum la telefoane si etc. Real life, consumer, high end, diferente minime, poate la capitolul fiabilitate/anduranta exista.
Legat de x99 eu am luat de pe OLX cu inca un an garantie, inca sunt cateva placi x99 super ok. Personal nu as da 2000 3000 pe un MB din prezent, marketing again.

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nu zic ca ce scrieti voi nu e interesant.
dar 108 grade C cu cel mai bun ventilator e cam greu de digerat chit ca il tii in 90 dupa fine tunnings. 250w vs 65w ... un procesor serie 5000 isi recupereaza banii din factura la curent, ca la noi curentul nu e ieftin.
la asta adaugam chestii nedorite: management engine, meltdown, spectre
ar fi si niste minusuri: usb 3.2 gen 2, pci express 4.0 lucruri pe care un x570 le are, de la preturi de 7-800 ron.
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nu zic ca ce scrieti voi nu e interesant.
dar 108 grade C cu cel mai bun ventilator e cam greu de digerat chit ca il tii in 90 dupa fine tunnings. 250w vs 65w ... un procesor serie 5000 isi recupereaza banii din factura la curent, ca la noi curentul nu e ieftin.
la asta adaugam chestii nedorite: management engine, meltdown, spectre
ar fi si niste minusuri: usb 3.2 gen 2, pci express 4.0 lucruri pe care un x570 le are, de la preturi de 7-800 ron.
Cred ca iti scapa AVX/AVX2 si faptul ca mai toti ce se joaca cu Prime95 dezactiveaza AVX. Mai apoi, 250W trage Linpack doar, Cinebench 140-150w iar jocurile gen New Horizon pana in 110w, in general 80w e consumul. Si inca ceva, CPU e unlocked, deci se hraneste cu cat poate.
Nu inteleg ce ai cu ME (ai idee cat de usor e sa faci management la mii de calculatoare cu iamt? ) , meltdown si spectre pe un PC personal iar USB-urile le folosesc din an in paste si 110mb/s imi este suficient. PciX 4.0 e useless in momentul de fata, asta daca nu muti zeci de Gb zilnic.
Iti dau dreptate la partea cu energia electrica but...nu am luat un V8 ca sa pun GPL pe el

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Cu putina galagie la vents am ajuns aici, si la temperaturi mai low daca tot s-a zis ca sunt prea sus :P
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ai o placa x99 ok, deci dpdv value 4 money are sens sa iei un xeon ieftin strict pentru gaming. Platforma x99 + ddr 4 quad core + un xeon ok minim 8c / 16t, cu turbo boost unlock poate fi inca un sistem rezonabil.
ok.
Sunt curios ce inseamna rezonabil pentru tine.
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