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Old 08-11-2018, 01:36   #56901
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Exista si la Intel probleme similare.

As putea sa ma duc pe placa Asrock B450 Pro4 si cred ca ar fi ok, dar cred ca ar trebui sa ma duc pe un X470 ca sa stau mai linistit. Asus X470-Pro Prime ar fi o chestie, dar e un pic cam scump, probabil Asrock X470 Master SLI o sa fie.

Zice urmatoarele - deci nu prea sunt chestii shared:

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x470 master sli

Supports AMD AM4 Socket Ryzen Series CPUs (Summit Ridge, Raven Ridge and Pinnacle Ridge)
Supports DDR4 3466+ (OC)
2 PCIe 3.0 x16, 4 PCIe 2.0 x1
NVIDIA® Quad SLI™, AMD Quad CrossFireX™
Graphics Output: HDMI
7.1 CH HD Audio (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), Nichicon Fine Gold Series Audio Caps
6 SATA3, 1 Ultra M.2 (PCIe Gen3 x4 & SATA3), 1 M.2 (PCIe Gen2 x2 & SATA3)
2 USB 3.1 Gen2 (rear Type-A+C), 10 USB 3.1 Gen1 (4 Front, 6 Rear)
Intel® Gigabit LAN

AMD Ryzen series CPUs (Summit Ridge and Pinnacle Ridge)
- 2 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 Slots (single at x16 (PCIE1); dual at x8 (PCIE1) / x8 (PCIE4))*
AMD Ryzen series CPUs (Raven Ridge)
- 1 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 Slot (single at x8 (PCIE1)) (If you use Athlon 200GE APU, PCIE1 slot will run at x4 mode.)*

- 4 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 Slots
- Supports AMD Quad CrossFireX™ and CrossFireX™**
- Supports NVIDIA® Quad SLI™ and SLI™**
- 15μ Gold Contact in VGA PCIe Slot (PCIE1)

*Supports NVMe SSD as boot disks

**This feature is only supported with Ryzen Series CPUs (Summit Ridge and Pinnacle Ridge).

- 6 x SATA3 6.0 Gb/s Connectors, support RAID (RAID 0, RAID 1 and RAID 10), NCQ, AHCI and Hot Plug
- 1 x Ultra M.2 Socket (M2_1), supports M Key type 2230/2242/2260/2280/22110 M.2 SATA3 6.0 Gb/s module and M.2 PCI Express module up to Gen3 x4 (32 Gb/s) (with Summit Ridge, Raven Ridge and Pinnacle Ridge)*
- 1 x M.2 Socket (M2_2), supports M Key type 2230/2242/2260/2280 M.2 SATA3 6.0 Gb/s module and M.2 PCI Express module up to Gen2 x2 (10 Gb/s)*

*Supports NVMe SSD as boot disks
Supports ASRock U.2 Kit
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Old 08-11-2018, 01:46   #56902
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Sub radiator e 970 Evo. Al doilea M.2 da disable la ultimul PCI-E, care e 4x in plastic de 16x.

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Trebuie sa imi iau ATX, ca altfel am probleme de spatiu. Am un cooler foarte mare pe placa video. B450 Tomahawk, care e echivalentul pe ATX, are un singur M.2.
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Then STRIX B450-F GAMING (are NIC Intel), desi si Pro4 este laudat, cel putin pe mATX.

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La ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING:

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*2 Support StoreMI and NVMe RAID

*3 When the M.2_1 Socket 3 is operating in SATA or PCIE mode, SATA6G_5/6 ports will be disabled.

*4 When the M.2_2 is occupied by M.2 device, PCIe x16_1 will run at x8 mode.
Mi se pare ca asta e cel mai elegant mod in care rezolvi problema, doar ca iti ramane placa video in x8 mode.
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Old 08-11-2018, 08:13   #56906
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Ce dimensiuni ar trebui sa aiba un garaj care sa fie si “mancave” ?
Pentru depozitat vor fi o berlina ,3 motociclete din care una are atas si multe componente pc ,foarte multe ,probabil si un birou + canapea .


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Old 08-11-2018, 08:19   #56907
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Geez

https://www.businessinsider.com/boei...adings-2018-11

Sa verific daca urmatorul zbor e cu 737 Max ...nope , e un Airbus A321.

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Old 08-11-2018, 10:36   #56908
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@mbc - cand cautam si eu ce sa aleg, prin cateva videouri / review-uri am vazut ca diferenta dintre b450 si x470 e cam nesemnificativa in materie de OC capability / stabilitate, x470 avand in mare parte in plus doar suport pt multi-gpu, si IN UNELE CAZURI, vrm mai bun.

Pe x470 mi'a placut placa asta ce am luat'o (msi x470 pro carbon), iar urmatoarea fiind ASRock Taichi sau Crosshair VII Hero, care sutn foarte scumpe.
Pe b450, bang for the buck mi s'a parut (temperaturi, oc capability wise) msi pro carbon si msi tomahawk.

Acum nu stiu cat de mult influenteaza faptul ca portul m.2 e blocat, in afara de faptul ca dezactiveaza niste porturi sata..
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La ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING:



Mi se pare ca asta e cel mai elegant mod in care rezolvi problema, doar ca iti ramane placa video in x8 mode.
Dar se pare ca are probleme cu supraincalzirea VRM-ului pentru ca s-au gandit ca e o idee buna sa puna un plastic peste VRM. Bun.

MSI are racirea pe VRM foarte buna, si la Tomahawk si la Gaming Pro Carbon (in ambele cazuri voi putea folosi doar un ssd m.2 NVMe, problema este ca nu are optiunea de voltage offset, deci la 2700x procesorul va merge cu ce tensiune vrea el, fara sa pot seta un offset negativ. Bun.

Asrock X470 Master SLI minte in legatura cu VRM-ul. Alte informatii nu am prea gasit. Inca mai caut.

Asrock x470 Fatal1ty Gaming k4 e ~850, ceea ce o apropie foarte tare de Asus Prime X470-PRO, care nici aia nu e tocmai perfecta, dar are BIOS mai bun.
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A ramas Asrock X470 Master SLI. In mare parte pentru ca nici o placa MSI nu era disponibila.
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A ramas Asrock X470 Master SLI. In mare parte pentru ca nici o placa MSI nu era disponibila.
Va fi Asus Prime X470-Pro. Nimic MSI pe stoc sau la comanda anul asta. Am renuntat la Asrockul ala din cauza unor figuri naspa ale Asrock - VRM-ul e asa si asa, ei mintind pe fata.
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https://altex.ro/cablu-audio-video-h...CABHDMI122210/

Merita sa dau 90 de lei pe un cablu HDMI sau este doar marketing?
Actualul cablu este ceva no-name. Il folosesc pentru consola si in jocurile 4K cu HDR on pare sa fie in regula.
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Marketing. Hama este la fel de no-name.
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Mie firma asta imi place https://www.pcgarage.ro/cabluri-audi...ernet-negru-6/
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true, insa legat de marketing nu-i 100% adevarat, depinde aplicabilitate si distanta.
Cauta QED sau Supra
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La 1.5m nu prea mai contează, la lungimea aia se poate vinde un cablu cu 10 lei și tot ai adaos 100%.
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Bossilor Hama nu este asa de noname
Founded Dresden, Saxony, Germany (1923)
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Și ce, dacă a avut 2500 de oameni în 2011 înseamnă că are produse bune?
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Bai, Hama sunt ok. Pret/calitate mi se par foarte faini. Am de la ei de la cabluri la carduri microSD si sunt ok. Nu rup gura targului cu cine stie ce performante/build quality de moare lumea, dar de fiecare data si-au facut treaba ireprosabil.
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