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Old 28-08-2022, 11:04   #1
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Default Ryzen 5600x sau 3900x

Salut . Vreau sa imi schimb actualul procesor si nu stiu ce sa aleg dintre cele doua . Mentionez ca il folosesc in jocuri gen wow ,warzone ...in office ....muzica si filme ....am ca placa video 3060ti si placa de baza asus tuf x570 . Poate ma ajuta cineva sa iau o decizie .....din ce am mai citit 5600x ar fi mai bun in jocuri si este un procesor de generatie mai noua .....dar am gasit 3900x mai ieftin ca 5600x....
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Old 28-08-2022, 11:58   #2
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Mergi pe 5600x linistit.
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Old 28-08-2022, 13:18   #3
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Nu cred ca este 3900x la banii astia ... https://www.vexio.ro/procesoare/amd/...-32-mb-l3-box/ (resigilat)
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Old 28-08-2022, 13:33   #4
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Recomand direct 5600, e diferenta foarte mica fata de 5600x, dar e mai ieftin: https://www.pcgarage.ro/procesoare/a...600-35ghz-box/

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-5600/
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,1.html

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Old 28-08-2022, 14:21   #5
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Nu cred ca este 3900x la banii astia ... https://www.vexio.ro/procesoare/amd/...-32-mb-l3-box/ (resigilat)
Am gasit sigilat dar fara garantie ........
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Strict dintre cele 2 eu as lua 3900x, dar depinde care e scopul principal al computerului.
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Omu a scris ce face cu el.... nu a pomenit de masini virtuale sau alte activitati grele care necesite mai multe nuclee.
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A zis ca il foloseste la jocuri, fara sa zica ce monitor are. A zis de muzica si filme, fara sa zica daca face productie sau doar consum. Daca are refresh mare si doar consum de muzica si filme, 5600x. Daca jocuri la 60hz si productie de muzica si filme, mai bine 3900x.
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Conteaza f mult rezolutia in care te joci. Placa ta e de minim wqhd sau chiar 4k, ca merge ok, iar in 4k diferenta intre 3900x si 5600x e nula (5-6% in wqhd si 10% in FHD). Problema e alta, in multitasking 5600x e spulberat literalmente de 3900x, inclusiv in randare samd. Eu sincer as lua 3900x daca e la aceeasi bani cu 5600x.

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Sa nu uitam ca 3900x cunsuma cu 60W mai mult si ii cu 15 grade celsius mai fierbinte... deci o sa ai nevoie de racire mai buna. In final mai multi bani aruncati pe fereastra
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Am un monitor gigabyte...2550/1440 165 Hz... 32 inch...dar cred ca pana la urma nu iau nici unu si caut un un 5800x... .poate gasesc pe olx sigilat.......am vazut si la 1100 lei .bugetu era de 1000 lei .....mai plusez ceva si iau 5800x
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Vezi ca 5800x are mari probleme cu temperaturile... mai bine mergi pe altceva. Eu am avut 5800x si am trecut la 5600x.
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Vezi ca 5800x are mari probleme cu temperaturile... mai bine mergi pe altceva. Eu am avut 5800x si am trecut la 5600x.
Am un cooler pe apa cu radiator de 240 ...oare nu face fata ?
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Daca il lasi default e cald orice procesor, daca il bibilesti poti face rece aproape orice procesor. Eu nu am avut probleme cu caldura pe nici un CPU AMD din 6 proace avute. Nu te speria de 5800X, e un CPU super.
La actual il tin 4.4 all cores 1.15 si in gaming sta in functie de jocuri 50-60 grade maxim, l-am avut si la 4.7 1.25v all corest dar nu am simtit diferente asa ca l-am dat mai jos. Mai sunt si ghene de proace sau raciri care nu calca bine dar astea sunt alte discutii.
Nu tin TURBO sau PBO pe nici un CPU AMD sau Intel. ... DAR ... pe seria 5000 e implementat mai bine si ai curve optimzier si poti scoate frecvente si scorui misto daca te pasioneaza, dar daca nu esti fan OC si alea alea atunci default + apa e misto. Eu nu m-as mai intoarce la seria 3000 asa ca 5600 minim e belea.

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Este o problema de design... ii poti pune racire pe apa de 360 si tot degeaba am incercat pe pielea mea. Bibileala si alte chesti nu merita. Daca ai banuti asteapta noua generatie si cumpara 5800x3D sigur o sa coboare pretul.



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Nu ma ocup cu OC....dar ini place sa nu se incinga la 80-90 grade ...am avut un 3600 si cu ,coolerul care il am statea in maxim 65 grade ....
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Bibileala si alte chesti nu merita.
Ne-am lenevit toti si trebuie sa stam cu proacele pe auto si cu voltaje mari aiurea sau cum ? Am pus pe toate proacele pana acum C14S, U12A, X63 si altele dar astea 3 de departe cele mai impresionante - acelasi rezultate excelente pe ele si in ITX, in carcasele ATX erau temperaturi mult mai mari. No offence vibeup, doar zic, nu o lua ca personal. Turbo dpmdv nu imi place pt ce ofera, la fel cum nu suport nici CPU sa urce sau sa coaboare in frecvente, doar o chestie subiectiva pt mine.
Cine vrea turbo si PBO ai curve optimizer si te joci pana iti vine rau.

5700G cu L9A in carcasa 2litri Asrock X300 (care o mizerie pe airlow) default are 90+ grade constant si throtle la greu dar umblat la TDP si curve optimizer merge de rupe pe la 75 grade si performante absolut mult mai bune decat default + OC la GPU fara absolut nici un throtle + OC la memorii.
Deci garantat se poate pe orice procesor, mici exceptii de la caz la caz.

Pt el un 5600 si 5600X ca e binuit mai bine e perfect... eu as lua fara drept de apel 5800X/3D mai ales ca are AIO dar daca nu are bani atunci si piticul e bun.

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Da man si eu am 5600x cu undervolt si curve optimizer la fel am avut si 5800x dar era prea fierbinte 85 grade in anumite jocuri orice i-as face... 50-60 grade imi pare sf dar poate ai fost tu mai norocos(cred ca 50-60 aveam si eu dar era in idle). Daca ai NFS Heat joaca te rog 10 minute si revino cu temperaturi.
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Stai asa ca sunt jocuri gen WarZone de iti incing proacele aiurea total, alea sunt exceptii daca restul merg altfel. Nu e SF pentru ca nu am PBO on, sunt pe voltaj fix. Vezi istoric in threadul Mini ITX new build - Work in progress.
In prime am 75-80maxim daca e cald rau in casa ca idee.

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Da dar nu vreau sa investesc asa mult..totusi e mai mult decat dublu fata de cat mi-am propus sa investesc ..o sa o fac daca achimb platforma si trec pe am 5 .....dar asta nubse va intampla orea curand ....... Iar la 3600 i-am redus doar voltaju la 1.25....pentru ca altfel statea in 1.45 cam tot timpu..si de acolo so redus mult temperatura ....dar asta nu inseamna OC....
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