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26-07-2020, 22:34
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#3221
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Nici la mine nu face la SSD-ul 970 EVO pe care am OS-ul instalat. Pe celălalt SSD văd că face singur. Ciudat.
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26-07-2020, 22:39
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#3222
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Nici mie nu-mi face, dar ii dau cand imi aduc aminte, nu e stres, adica nu vad vreo diferenta.
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26-07-2020, 22:50
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SSD-ul isi face intern, ceea ce ii da windows e fix zero pe langa ce face el intern. Evident, vorbesc de un ssd modern, cele de pe la inceput erau mai dependente de comanda TRIM emisa de windows. Eu nu setez nimic, ca idee.
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26-07-2020, 23:16
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Nici eu n-am observat vreo degradare aiurea de health, mi-e relativ indiferent. Cand imi aduc aminte ii mai dau manual un Trim ca rau n-are ce sa-i faca.
Sunt impresionat de Intel 660p 2TB M.2 care e SSD-ul de lucru pentru Foto/Video, ma asteptam sa-i scada health mult mai repede, mai ales ca stiam ca e rated la doar 400TBW cand l-am luat. So far , in fix 1an si 1 luna de cand l-am comandat, are 56TB written, 224days power on, si 96% Health raportate de HD Sentinel.
In schimb, cele mai "nasoale" SSD-uri la Health sunt cele doua Crucial MX300 de 750GB care au 41TB/89%/657days power on si 60TB/82%/800days power on.
850EVO de 512gb pentru Win/Programe/Pagefile are dubios de mult TB (68TB/93%/713 days power on), dar asta cred ca pentru ca raman relativ repede fara RAM (32GB) si probabil scrie in virtual memory. Cache pentru programele Foto/Video sunt setate pe Intel 660p btw.
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27-07-2020, 14:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boggy
Same here, cu toate ca nu le face. Am verificat acum 2 zile si mi-a zis "last optimized 27days ago".
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E bug de windows, il face dar nu afiseaza, 2004 build bug, anuntat de ceva vreme.
Nu ii fac nici o setare la SSD, de regula ii las 10% din el nepartitionat pentru overprovisioning la orice SSD si firmaware update daca are si cam aia e in mare.
Last edited by agarici cu pedale; 27-07-2020 at 14:55.
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31-07-2020, 01:03
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#3226
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31-07-2020, 03:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by agarici cu pedale
E bug de windows, il face dar nu afiseaza, 2004 build bug, anuntat de ceva vreme.
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N-am eu versiune de-asta de hipsteri, la mine face asta pe W10 LTSC 1809.
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02-08-2020, 11:17
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#3228
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Pe un SSD pe care l-am cumparat nou am urmatoarea situatie la scriere. Ce ziceti, situatie de garantie? Abia l-am folosit un pic.
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02-08-2020, 11:22
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Pune 5.61.5 aka beta si vezi daca indica la fel. Daca nu retur.
Am avut intr-o vreme WD BLUE, 10 buc la munca luate, toate imi aratau 0% HP, era bug de soft, pus beta 100% HP, alte softuri aratau OK.
E pos pe direct sau adaptor ?
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02-08-2020, 12:10
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E conectat direct pe port sata. Am incercat cu 5.3 si acum cu 5.61, o sa pun si beta.
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02-08-2020, 15:42
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TLC + Controller prost. La inceput dunga aia constanta de block-uri e cache-ul SLC. Dupa, cand trece la TLC se duce dracului tot.
Citeste aici: DiskBench - Directory Copy
https://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/77...rage-Utilities
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We use DiskBench to time a 28.6GB block (9,882 files in 1,247 folders) composed primarily of incompressible sequential and random data as it's transferred from our DC P3700 PCIe NVME SSD to our test drive. We then read from a 6GB zip file that's part of our 28.6GB data block to determine the test drive's read transfer rate. Our system is restarted prior to the read test to clear any cached data, ensuring an accurate test result.
Write Transfer Rate
The main drawback to planar-based TLC SSDs is sustained write performance. This particular test happens to be the test we place the most importance on with regard to TLC SSDs. Terrible write transfer rates are inherent to SMI's SM2256 controller, which is THE reason no SM2256 powered SSD has ever received a TweakTown recommendation. When an SSD can't even write a large chunk of data as fast as even low performing spinning disk drives, it's not something we will ever be able to recommend to our readers. In contrast to the SM2256 powered SSDs the S10 powered SSDs deliver respectable sustained write transfer rates. Direct write to die for the win. This testing display's why we will continue to recommend Phison S10 powered TLC SSDs to our readers as the best bang for the buck in the super low cost segment.
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24-08-2020, 15:59
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E ok, dar iti recomand sa arunci un ochi la colegul Iubitel pentru un SSD, mai intai
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24-08-2020, 16:53
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M-am uitat, dar nu are M.2 uri.
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24-08-2020, 16:59
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Ce trebuie sa intelegi este ca M.2 este doar un form factor, adica o forma fizica. Ce sa mai zic ca, de fapt, isi ia numele de la tipul de surub cu care se prinde, dar asta e mai putin important. Ce e important este ca ai M.2 NVMe si M.2 SATA. M.2 Sata nu e altceva decat un ssd SATA cu forma mica, performanta e aceeasi. M.2 NVMe ai forma M.2 si performanta marita, datorilta vitezei pe care o primesti folosind NVMe (peste PCI-Express)
In momentul asta, domnu' Iubitel are urmatoarele SSD-uri NVMe:
NVMe:
Sabrent Rocket 512GB, nou, sigilat, viteze 3400/2000 memorie TLC ===> 270 lei
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-SB-RO.../dp/B07KGMBCKD
Western Digital Black SN750 nou la cutie sigilat ==> 550 lei
https://www.pcgarage.ro/ssd/western-...30-x4-m2-2280/
Crucial P5 2TB, nou, la cutie sigilat ==> 1000 RON
https://www.forit.ro/ssd-uri/crucial...5+3D+NAND+NVMe
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24-08-2020, 18:15
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#3236
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Multumesc pentru lamuriri.
Cred ca voi lua acel SN750.
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24-08-2020, 19:15
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La banii aia nu gasesti nimic mai bun zic eu.
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24-08-2020, 20:14
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#3238
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crusher
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Poți instala două SSD-uri M.2 NVMe... unul în slot-ul M.1, iar celălalt în slotul PCIe_3 printr-un adaptor:
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Supports PCIE RAID configurations via onboard M.2 and PCIex16_3
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Dacă instalezi un SSD M.2 SATA pierzi portul SATA Express (mai exact două porturi SATA):
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M.2 shares SATA mode with SATA Express. Change this item before installing M.2 SATA devices.
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24-08-2020, 21:11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bugsy004
Poți instala două SSD-uri M.2 NVMe... unul în slot-ul M.1, iar celălalt în slotul PCIe_3 printr-un adaptor:
Dacă instalezi un SSD M.2 SATA pierzi portul SATA Express (mai exact două porturi SATA):
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Daca tin eu bine minte nu am nimic conectat la slotul SATA Express - nu cred ca ar fi problema.
Asta daca am inteles eu bine la ce te referi.
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24-08-2020, 22:47
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#3240
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Informațiile le găsești în manualul plăcii de bază.
Indicat e să cumperi un SSD format M.2, dar NVMe, PCIex4. Vitezele sunt mult mai mari comparativ cu unul SATA. Acel WD Black de 1TB e super!
Totodată nu ai probleme să dezactiveze conectori SATA, cum sunt la alți producători de plăci de bază, vezi MSI și Gigabyte...
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