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Old 05-11-2017, 14:08   #33141
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Man, sunt defecte. Ce treaba are cu mai mult de o luna si ambalaj original?
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Old 05-11-2017, 14:12   #33142
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Nasol.
Data viitoare să păstrezi cutiile pānă ești sigur că produsul este fără probleme.
Bine, nici prin minte nu-ți dădea că se poate īntāmpla așa ceva!!!
Chestiile de pe ali nu știu īn cāt timp vor īmbătrānii.
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Old 05-11-2017, 14:15   #33143
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Man, sunt defecte. Ce treaba are cu mai mult de o luna si ambalaj original?
Nu inteleg. Cum sa fie "defecte" arcurile? Sunt prost facute/gandite/turnate, iar daca nu aveau urme puteau fi puse inapoi in cutii si returnate la Autokarma in 14 zile, conform contractului. Dar fara cutii nu mi le mai ia nimeni.

Sunt curios daca si ce raspuns imi da KYB Romania.
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Old 05-11-2017, 14:18   #33144
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Man, nu sunt conforme cu specificatiile. In specificatii erau pentru masina ta. Puse pe masina ta, iti scot masina din specificatii. Cu alte cuvinte, arcurile sunt neconforme. Ce nu intelegi? Defect nu inseamna numai ca nu e rupt, defect inseamna si ca iti sta masina prea jos sau prea sus.

Asta e caz clar de protectia consumatorului daca nu ti le schimba Kyb Ro sau resellerul.
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Old 05-11-2017, 14:20   #33145
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Inteleg la ce te refereai acum. Nu-i o idee rea. Le-am trimis acum si imaginile puse recent aici unde se vede mai clar diferenta uriasa.

Astept raspuns si ma duc si la Autokarma dupa.
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Old 05-11-2017, 16:07   #33146
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Man, sunt defecte. Ce treaba are cu mai mult de o luna si ambalaj original?
Nu sunt defecte, sunt universale intre motorizari. Nici o firma AM nu face, pentru fiecare arc si telescop OE, un produs echivalent (cum sunt la celelalte piese).
Asta e si nasol la schimbarea de amortizoare/arcuri, ca poti sa nu le nimeresti, daca iei AM. OE preturile sunt duble, cel putin.
Si la golf, arcurile sunt inscriptionate cu buline colorate(pe ele nu scrie cod) si sunt 15-20 de combinatii...
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Old 05-11-2017, 17:17   #33147
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Nu sunt defecte, sunt universale intre motorizari. Nici o firma AM nu face, pentru fiecare arc si telescop OE, un produs echivalent (cum sunt la celelalte piese).
Asta e si nasol la schimbarea de amortizoare/arcuri, ca poti sa nu le nimeresti, daca iei AM. OE preturile sunt duble, cel putin.
Si la golf, arcurile sunt inscriptionate cu buline colorate(pe ele nu scrie cod) si sunt 15-20 de combinatii...
In capul meu astea ce le-am luat erau OEM, adica stiam ca KYB a facut si arcurile. Amortizoarele sigur erau KYB, dar arcurile habar n-am.

L.E. Haha, pe epiesa.ro am gasit arcuri OE Renault, 700 Ron bucata. =)))

Am dat comanda acum de 2 amortizoare pentru portbagaj, 27Ron bucata. Starline. Le-am luat pe cele mai ieftine, mai mult de curiozitate(Lesjofors era 54Ron bucata, adica dublu). Astea de-acum abia mai tin portbagajul. Daca-s mega praf iau de-astelalte, dar ma indoiesc ca vor fi probleme.
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Old 05-11-2017, 18:25   #33148
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Eu am luat Starline pentru portbagaj, au mers ok 3 ani dupa care am pus altele. Problema este ca masina despre care vorbim sta mult cu portbagajul deschis, cateodata si partial si orice amortizoare de portbagaj se duc prematur, dar 30 lei o data la 2-3 ani e ok.
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Fain atunci. Cum au "cedat"? S-au inmuiat pur si simplu sau au curs?
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Old 05-11-2017, 19:42   #33150
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Nu mai tineau hayonul sus. Initial doar cand era frig, dupa cateva luni deloc. Nu am vazut sa curga lichid.
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Mamă ce bine vin părerile astea legate de amortizoarele Starline, fix ieri eram in dubii daca sa risc cu ele sau sa iau ceva mult mai scump.

Deci inteleg ca sunt OK, merg pe Starline.

Multumesc baieti
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Old 07-11-2017, 19:18   #33152
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S-a suparat Doamne Doamne pe tine @fullrespect, nu mai pot aduce Starline la mine. Mi-a recomandat ori Magnetti Marelli, ori ceva cu K.something. Cica-s cele mai bune, si mi-a facut si reducere de la 65 Ron la 54Ron/bucata. Au ajuns azi la sediu, maine sau joi le iau si revin cu pareri.

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Old 07-11-2017, 21:11   #33153
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Trebuie sa schimb anvelopele de iarna si am gasit modele astea doua la oferta la Altex:

BARUM Polaris 3 6002006409, 185/65R15, 88T, TL 164 lei

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BF Goodrich 185/65R15 92T G-FORCE WINTER2 189 lei

Masina este un Logan 1.6 16v , vechile anvelope de iarna sunt Barum Polaris 1 cu care nu am avut probleme.
Dupa indicii de eficenta pe ploaie si consum asa alege BF Goodrich.
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Mergi pe BFG, sunt si mai bune pe ploaie si mai silentioase. 2db se simt.
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Prima intrebare este in ce an sunt produse? Ce DOT au? Dupa aceea, la modul general, Barum Polaris 3 este in top10 aprox iar BF Goodrich in top 20, deci eu as lua Polaris3, presupunand ca au acelasi DOT, recent.
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Pe mine ma batea gandul sa merg pe Nokian WR D4 TL 91T si vad ca au pret bun la astia la Altex. Alte alternative la ele? Buget ~1000 lei dimensiuni 195/65/15
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Maine sun sa īntreb de DOT, desi sunt 99% sigur ca nu voi primi un raspuns relevant.
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Daca ai 1000 lei, mai adaugi pana la 1040 si iei Michelin Alpin.

https://www.emag.ro/anvelopa-iarna-m...ch-Action=view
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Maine sun sa īntreb de DOT, desi sunt 99% sigur ca nu voi primi un raspuns relevant.
Eu de fiecare data am primit un raspuns clar. Cateodata, era insotit de texte "dar anvelopele au stat la noi in depozit cu ionizare super stelara si sunt in perfecta stare" dar DOT-ul ti-l da cam toata lumea.
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Daca ai 1000 lei, mai adaugi pana la 1040 si iei Michelin Alpin.

https://www.emag.ro/anvelopa-iarna-m...ch-Action=view
As prefera sa nu mai merg pe Michelin, am avut neplaceri cu doua seturi de anvelope de iarna cu ei, mai mult de doua sezoane nu m-au tinut unele, s-au tocit de le-a luat dracu in noiembrie-martie, iar altele s-au ovalizat in al treilea sezon, depozitate de mine, acasa, pe stand, fara sa le bata soarele...
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