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Old 10-03-2011, 12:29   #1
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Default Platforma old-school 3 - socket A

Dupa "jucatul" pe placi de baza socket 478 (Asus P4GPL-X) si socekt 939 (DFI Lanparty UT nF4 SLI-D) am trecut la "batranul" socket A.

Setup-ul contine urmatoarele:
1) Placa de baza - Abit AN7. Nu tocmai cea mai reusita implementare a Nforce 2 Ultra 400, dar are gauri de montare a coolerului si un BIOS relativ generos din punctul de vedere al voltajelor.

Dupa primele teste, folosind un Barton 2600+ si ultimul BIOS oficial, nu urca foarte bine in FSB ...

Placa este cea de aici:
http://www.digital-daily.com/motherboard/abit-an7/
http://www.hexus.net/content/item.ph...1&redirect=yes
http://techreport.com/articles.x/6470/1
http://www.lejabeach.com/Reviews/AN7/an7-1.html

Un link cu discutii despre BIOS-urile modate (din pacate linkurile pe care le-am incercat sunt picate):
http://www.overclockers.com/forums/s...d.php?t=400288

In testele initiale, placa de baza va fi stock doar cu 1-2 fanuri normale de 120mm care bat spre NB si RAM.

2) CPU - Intr-o prima faza un Barton 2600+, apoi un Athlon XP-M 2400+ (core Barton), apoi poate "batranul" 2500+ care facea SPi 32M @ 230*11 @ 1.9V pe Albatron KX18Ds Pro II.

3) Racire - Thermalright SP-97. In primele teste are un fan AVC de 92mm si ~ 2400 rpm (cel mai puternic pe care l-am avut la dispozitie). Apoi voi incerca probabil sa-i pun unul de 120mm si 3000-3500 rpm, daca-l pot fixa cumva.
Review-uri:
http://www.techaddicts.net/reviews/sp97/sp97.html
http://www.overclockercafe.com/Revie...P-97/index.htm
http://www.overclockers.com/thermalright-sp-97/

4) RAM - 2*256MB Corsair CMX256A-3200 LLPT (XMS3205 v1.1.) cu chip-uri BH5, imprumutate de Monstru, caruia ii multumesc si pe aceasta cale.

5) PSU - Antec SU-380, 380W.

6) VGA - Matrox G450 16MB PCI

7) Stocare - 2*160GB WD1600AAJS
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Athlon XP, core Barton, 2600+
AXDA2600DKV4D
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Procesorul este prost la prima vedere (fata de ceea ce am mai avut). Face prime @ 2150MHz @ 1.75V !!!, desi avea ~45C in load. Bartonul 2500+ pe care l-am avut mergea @ 2200MHz @ 1.55V pe un cooler mai prost.

Primele rezultate:

SPi 1M - 41.766s @ 2431 MHz (221*11) @ 2.0V, DDR442 2-2-2-11 1T - Limita de recventa a CPU
SPi 1M - 41.781s @ 2351 MHz (235*10) @ 2.0V, DDR470 2-2-2-11 1T - Limita FSB-ului pentru combinatia asta MB/RAM/CPU
SPi 32M - 36m58s515 @ 2402 MHz (219*11) @ 2.0V, DDR437 2-2-2-11 1T
PiFast - 59s22 @ 2402 MHz (219*11) @ 2.0V, DDR437 2-2-2-11 1T
wPrime 32M - 66s265 @ 2422 MHz (221*11) @ 2.0V, DDR440 2-2-2-11 1T
wPrime 1024M - 2122s796 @ 2402 MHz (221*11) @ 2.0V, DDR437 2-2-2-11 1T
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Old 10-03-2011, 12:30   #3
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Athlon XP-M 2400+
AXMA2400FUT4C
AQYHA 0351RPMW

Pe scurt - o mica bestie: SPi 1M @ 2730 MHz @ 1.9V la temperatura camerei (>20C). Din pacate, nimic nu este perfect. Are FSB wall, cred, pe la 217-218 (bus-ul default fiind 133 MHz spre deosebire de cei 166 MHz ai Barton-urile de desktop) si nici voltaje peste 1.97V setati in BIOS nu prea par sa-i placa.

Pana acum:
CPU-Z - 2828 MHz: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1709470 (Locul 7)
SPi 1M - 37.313s @ 2797 MHz (215*13) @ 1.97 V, DDR430 2-2-2-3 1T (locul 4 cu Barton Mobile 2400+ / Athlon XP-M 2400+)
SPi 32M - 33m31s765 @ 2752 MHz (212*13) @ 1.97V, DDR423 2-2-2-11 1T (Locul 2)
PiFast - 52.80s @ 2786 Mhz (214*13) @ 1.97V, DDR428 2-2-2-3 1T (Locul 3)
wPrime 32M - 57.155s @ 2797 MHz (215*13) @ 1.97 V, DDR430 2-2-2-3 1T (Locul 1)
wPrime 1024M - 1846.578s @ 2769 MHz (215*13) @ 2.0 V, DDR426 2-2-2-11 1T (Locul 1)
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Old 11-03-2011, 02:01   #4
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4) RAM - 2*256MB Corsair CMX256A-3200 LLPT (XMS3205 v1.1.) cu chip-uri BH5, imprumutate de Monstru, caruia ii multumesc si pe aceasta cale.

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Old 11-03-2011, 03:08   #5
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Deoarece Bartonul 2600+ nu prea vrea sa coopereze am decis sa-i mai dau niste voltaj. Am pus Delta-ul de 3500 rpm peste SP-97, iar fanul lui pe NB si am deschis geamul de deasupra placii de baza. Nu temperaturile par a fi problema principala, ci puturosenia procesorului - in Prime @ 2300 MHz @ 1.9V cu fanul de 92mm si 2400 rpm pus pe SP-97 are maxim 50C.

1 - poza cu setupul.
2 - Voltaje si temperaturi - 2511 MHz @ 2.1 V.
3 - SPi 1M - 40.500s @ 2501 MHz (227*11) @ 2.1 V, DDR455 2-2-2-11 1T
4 - SPi 32M - 35m56s156 @ 2470 MHz (225*11) @ 2.05 V, DDR450 2-2-2-11 1T

Scorurile cu 2600+ sunt undeva prin Top 20, cel mai rasarit fiind cel din SPi 32M, aflat momentan pe locul 11.
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Aici e un link funcţional cu (probabil) ultimele bios-uri (artbio).
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Or tine, dar nu la voltaje anemice , dar ambele variante de la Abit....NF7 si AN7, nu au decat 3.1V pt ram, din ce imi amintesc, si le cam face perfecte pt TCCD, numai ca...nu urca ma FSB 300, asa ca , nu-s perfecte pentru nimic. DFI Ultra B nf2 avea 3,2V ram. Cauta un booster Traian pe undeva, vezi mittone sau V0rtex.
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Am eu booster dar zicea ca nu are nevoie...
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Nu tin 2-2-2-5 fetele?
Pe Asus P4GPL-X au mers 2-2-2-4 pana pe la DDR450-460 cu 2.9V, dar pe nForce 2 , in dual-channel, 2-2-2-11 > 2-2-2-5, asa ca nici macar nu am incercat cu 2-2-2-5.

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Or tine, dar nu la voltaje anemice , dar ambele variante de la Abit....NF7 si AN7, nu au decat 3.1V pt ram, din ce imi amintesc, si le cam face perfecte pt TCCD, numai ca...nu urca ma FSB 300, asa ca , nu-s perfecte pentru nimic. DFI Ultra B nf2 avea 3,2V ram. Cauta un booster Traian pe undeva, vezi mittone sau V0rtex.
AN7 are maxim 3.2V setabili si subvolteaza pana spre 3.1V. Limita actuala de FSB este de la CPU, MB sau BIOS. O sa incerc si un BIOS modat si alte procesoare.

Booster nu mai bag in nici o placa - am avut doua boostere si fiecare a prajit placa in care a fost.
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Pacientul numarul 3:
Duron 850
D850AUT1B
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Update SPi 1M.
36.578s - Athlon XP-M 2400+ @ 2815 MHz, DDR433 2-2-2-3.
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A venit nitel frigul. Tot SP97 cu un fan de 2400 rpm pe procesor si deasupra un Delta AFB1212SH (~3500 rpm).

Athlon XP-M 2400+
CPU-Z - 2862 MHz: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1718629
SPi 32M - 31m54s203 @ 2839 MHz @ ~ 2.1 V, DDR437 2-2-2-11 1T (WR cu Athlon XP-M 2400+, locul 26 cu AMD K7, locul 2 cu AMD K7 pe aer)
SPi 1M - 36.547s @ 2839 MHz @ ~ 2.1 V, DDR437 2-2-2-11 1T (locul 4 in continuare )
PiFast - 51.34s @ 2827 Mhz @ ~ 2.1 V, DDR435 2-2-2-11 1T (Locul 3)
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"Melcul" numarul 1 in actiune.

Duron 850 Spitfire (D850AUT1B AMCA0051WPAW) racit de un Thermalright SP-97. Voltajul ... ~ 2.25V (2.22V setati in BIOS - mai sus nu mai pleaca).

SPi 1M - 1m31s313 @ 1165 MHz, DDR274 2-2-2-5
SPi 32M - 1h32m23s808 @ 1135 MHz, DDR267 2-2-2-5
Pifast - 128.08s @ 1165 MHz, DDR456 2-2-2-5

Mai incerc sa trag nitel de el, apoi incerc un L1 mod, macar sa dau la FSB mai mare, ca asa este infernal de plictisitor.
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Dupa deblocarea multiplicatorului, cu un amarat de creion (poza 1), a inceput sa se miste nitel mai bine. Ma refer la scoruri, ca frecventa maxima tot aia a fost. FSB wall undeva pe la 18x MHz, dar cum cea mai buna varianta este multiplicator 6.5 x nu am ajuns chiar pana acolo.

Asadar, Duron 850 Spitfire (D850AUT1B AMCA0051WPAW) racit de un Thermalright SP-97. Voltajul ... ~ 2.25V (2.22V setati in BIOS - mai sus nu mai pleaca).

SPi 1M - 1m24s610 @ 1178 MHz, DDR363 2-2-2-11
SPi 32M - 1h26m23s808 @ 1135 MHz, DDR351 2-2-2-11
Pifast - 117.08s @ 1178 MHz, DDR363 2-2-2-11
wPrime 32m - 147.797s @ 1178 MHz, DDR363 2-2-2-11
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Un Duron 850 cu "capul spart" (chip ciobit), dar care merge mai bine ca primul.

Duron 850 Spitfire (D850AUT1B AKCA0115CPVW) racit de un Thermalright SP-97. Voltajul ... ~ 2.25V (2.22V setati in BIOS - mai sus merge mai slab). MB - Abit AN7. Memorii - 2*256MB Corsair PC3200 LLPT si 2*512 MB Corsair CMX512-3200C2 PRO.

CPU-Z - 1243 MHz: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1727992 (locul 8)
SPi 1M - 1m22s640 @ 1218 MHz, DDR348 2-2-2-11 (locul 4)
SPi 32M - 1h25m31s141 @ 1171 MHz, DDR335 2-2-2-11 (locul 5)
Pifast - 115.53s @ 1213 MHz, DDR347 2-2-2-11 (locul 3)
wPrime 32m - 142.032s @ 1233 MHz, DDR363 2-2-2-11
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Frumoase frecvente.
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Multumesc, Ramiro ! Am "frecat" 2-3 zile primul Duron si cateva ore pe-al doilea, dar aveam deja lectia invatata.

Next ... Athlon XP Palomino 2000+ (1666 MHz, 133*12.5, multiplicator blocat)
AX2000DMT3C
AGOIA0211TPHJ (?)

Exemplarul pare cam puturos si, in plus, nu prea scaleaza cu voltajul. N-am apucat sa validez la 2000 MHz nici cu 2.25V desi temperatura raportata era pe la 10 C in idle.

CPU-Z: 1992 MHz: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1728911
SPi 1M - 54.937 @ 1934 MHz, DDR309 2-2-2-11
SPi 32M - 48m55s453 @ 1857 MHz, DDR297 2-2-2-11
Pifast - 77.98s @ 1902 MHz, DDR304 2-2-2-11
wPrime 32m - 91.359s @ 1918 MHz, DDR307 2-2-2-11
wPrime 1024m - 3062.124s @ 1850 MHz, DDR296 2-2-2-11
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Duron 1200
DHD1200AMT1B ?
AHLCA0152RPAW

I-am facut din prima L1 mod, dar unii multiplicatori nu merg. Stie FSB ~ 200 MHz, dar mai sus de ~1415 MHz nu prea mai face decat validare.

CPU-Z: 1444 MHz: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1728914
SPi 1M - 1m07s891 @ 1415 MHz, DDR354 2-2-2-11 (locul 6)
SPi 32M - 1h1m45s265 @ 1387 MHz, DDR347 2-2-2-11 (locul 5)
Pifast - 98.88s @ 1415 MHz, DDR354 2-2-2-11 (locul 6)
wPrime 32m - 124.203s @ 1415 MHz, DDR354 2-2-2-11
wPrime 1024m - 4095.156s @ 1370 MHz, DDR342 2-2-2-11
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