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Old 10-07-2019, 20:59   #501
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Nu am nici o idee ce se intampla, vcore 1.35 si PBO cu +200. Restul voltajelor si ram setat manual.

M-a surprins placa de baza gigabyte, fara probleme pana acum iar meniul e decent. Astept urmatoarele actualizari de bios.
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Old 10-07-2019, 21:44   #502
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In CpuZ ce scor ai ? Thanks.
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Old 10-07-2019, 21:49   #503
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O sa postez mai multe rezultate weekendul asta, trebuie ma obisnuiesc mai intai cu platforma. Pana atunci astept sugestii de benchuri.
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Old 11-07-2019, 23:26   #504
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Default Ryzen 5 3600 - AsRock AB350m Pro 4 - bios 5.90

Sunt beta tester.

Dar am vrut asta ... =))))))))))))

Asadar probleme cu al meu R5 3600 pe - AsRock AB350m Pro 4 - bios 5.90.

Pe default cu memoriile puse la 3200 14-14-14-34 merge oarecum ok: all core sta cu frecventa la 3850Mhz cu voltaj de 1.187V si temperatura maxima de 65 grade C in Ryzen master in prime 95 - 8K.

Cand il pun la 4,2Ghz cu 1.4V setati in bios sare cu temperatura in 94,8 grade C (din 95 grade C maxim - nu stiu ce face la 95 grade C) in Ryzen master in prime 95 - 8K cum se vede si in poza.

Am reaplicat pasta pentru ca initial pusesem MX-2 doar in locul unde erau IO die si chiplet-ul. Aveam 92 grade C maxim.
La reaplicare am pus AS5 peste tot ... dar am cu 3 grade mai mult cum se vede.

Pe core-uri am mai multe voltaje in load: 1,35V pe core-uri, apoi 1,387V pe CPU core Voltage mai jos si 1,424V si mai jos in HWiNFO64.

Am o lamaie?

Sau bios-ul cu AGESA Combo 1.0.0.1 e foarte timpuriu?
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Old 11-07-2019, 23:40   #505
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1. Aia nu e placa de OC si nu ai cooler de OC daca ai 95 de grade in load.

2. Overclock e oricum semi inutil, cpu-ul face boost singur si sporul de performanta adus de OC e sub 10%.

Lasa-l stock si bucura-te de el.
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Old 12-07-2019, 00:25   #506
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1. Placa a putut overclock-a un R5 1600 la 4.025Mhz fara probleme

1.a sistemul de racire e un custom loop cu 2 x 360 rad pe care se invarteau 6 corsair ml pro la 2400 rpm. Mai avea un gtx 970 in idle. Cred ca ar trebui sa faca fata la orice as putea sa-i fac unui R5 3600

1.b sistemul tine R5 1600 overcloc-at la 4,025 Ghz cu 1,44V la 65 grade C package si 47 grade C CPU dupa cum se vede in poza atasata.

2. Ma joc si eu cu noul procesor sa vad ce si cum. Oricum nu ma ajuta la nimic practic. Dar cred ca e o problema cu raportarea temperaturii aleia. Am repus MX-2 si acum nu mai sare de 92 grade C.
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Old 12-07-2019, 08:55   #507
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Încearcă să aplici pasta MX-4, mai câștigi 3-4 grade.
Vorbește cu Monstru, știu că e o chichiță cu RAMii.
Spor la setări!
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:50   #508
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M-am gandit ca nu am suficienta presiune pe IHS din partea CPU block-ului EKWB: si am pus ... saibe. 4 la numar, cate 1 in fiecare colt.

Rezultat: fix ZERO imbunatatire.

Recapitulez:
R5 3600 @ 4200 Mhz - 1.4V bios (1,424V load) - RAM 3200 Mhz 14-14-14-34 1T @ 1.35V

AS 5 - Prime 95 - ver 29.4 - FFT 8K - 94,8 grade C
MX-2- Prime 95 - ver 29.4 - FFT 8K - 92 grade C
MX-2- Prime 95 - ver 25.11 - FFT 8K - 79 grade C
MX-2- Cinebench R15 run - 64 grade C

R5 3600 @ default (3850Mhz - 1,187V load)- RAM 3200 Mhz 14-14-14-34 1T @ 1.35V

MX-2- Prime 95 - ver 29.4 - FFT 8K - 65 grade C

Concluzii:
- se incinge dracia in Prime 95 - ver 29.4
- nu mai folosesc Prime 95 - ver 29.4 - =))))))))))))
- ma concentrez pe memorii
- o sa astept un bios mai matur cu AGESA Combo-1.0.0.3
- voltajele pe core-uri cresc o data cu scaderea temperaturii

In bios am si BCLK overclock cu valore setabile intre 100 si 103 Mhz, dar care nu functioneaza.
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:55   #509
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Mi se pare foarte ciudat sa ai temperaturile astea pe custom WC. Apa cate grade are? Waterblock-ul e fierbinte? Daca nu e problema de contact sau de raportare a temperaturii, ma gandesc sa nu fie lipitura dintre ihs si die, caz in care ar trebui sa faci retur.
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Nu am senzor pe apa, dar la mana furtunele sunt reci. Waterblock-ul nu e fierbinte.

Cel mai probabil e problema de 7nm si racire pe o suprafata foarte mica.

La garantie/retur ce zic? Stiti merge fara probleme de temperatura pe default, dar cand ii dau in gusa la 4.2 cu 1,4V o ia pe aratura?

Trebuie sa mai compar cu alte rezultate. Cu cooler-ul stoc am vazut temperaturi de 80 grade C in teste cu setari default.
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Old 12-07-2019, 12:24   #511
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Retur si iei altul. Nu trebuie sa le zici nimic.
Vad ca 3900x din review-ul lab501 sta in 83 de grade pe Noctua D15, pare ceva ciudat la tine.

Eu as zice ca e sudura nasoala intre die si ihs.

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Vezi asta: https://static.techspot.com/articles...ench/Temps.png

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Old 12-07-2019, 15:42   #512
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Am mai facut niste teste cu micutul R5 3600:

RAM: mai sus de 3333Mhz 14-14-14-34 1T @ 1.4V nu vrea sa mearga cu bios-ul actual 5.90 (AGESA Combo - 1.0.0.1). Se fastaceste si la 3400Mhz cu CL16.

CPU cu RAM-ul setat ca mai sus merge 4,2Ghz cu 1.36875V setati in BIOS. In load am intre 1,319V-1,325V pe core-uri si 1,362V si 1,392V depinde de raportare.

Temperaturi obtinute in functie de voltajul setat in bios la 4,2Ghz cu Prime 95 - ver 29.4 - FFT 8K:
1,4V - 92 grade C
1,375V - 89 grade C
1,36875V - 88 grade C
1,36250V - 87,8 grade C
1,35625V - 87 grade C - da eroare in Prime 95

Pana la un nou bios rulez cu el la 4,2Ghz cu 1.36875V setati in BIOS si memoria la 3333Mhz 14-14-14-34 1T @ 1.4V

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Old 12-07-2019, 16:44   #513
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Cam asa stau lucrurile, 1.4V e absurd de mult, si la mine se duce in 90*C cu rad de 320+240 si vent la max.

Prefer bios default cu setarile la ram puse manual. Tot in jur de 1600 puncte scoate in CB15

@droopy_ro am pus si rezultatul cpu-z
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Nush cum ar trebuie sa fie ryen 3000 dar 90+ C la 1.4v in prime 8k nu imi pare mult
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Nici noi nu stim, de asta ne miram acum la inceputuri.
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mai oameni buni... cine e proc bun si cuminte ajunge 3900X. Cine e cel mai baiat bun ajunge 3950X. Alea mici... nu or avea cel mai bun siliciu... oricum proacele astea pot urca pana la 110 daca nu ma insel.
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Old 14-07-2019, 16:15   #518
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Am memoriile astea: F4-3200C14D-16GVK.

La cat sa le tin pt un 2700x? un tip a gasit valorile astea stabile: https://www.overclockers.com/forums/...00C14D-16GTZKW

PS: ce naiba s-a intamplat, am dat pe ele 1100lei si peste cateva luni sunt 600
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Dap, au picat preturile la ram dramatic.

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Se aseaza la normal adica, in ultimii 2 ani a tot fost shortage de DDR4 din cauza tonelor de telefoane si altor portabile care au iesit.

S-au deschis recent niste fabrici de productie acum vreo 6 luni iar preturile incep sa se aseze.

Ca idee, dadusem ~1100 Ron pe 32gb Crucial Ballistix DDR3 1600MHz, PC3-12800, CL8 (care merg 2133Mhz lejer) in 2013. Asadar, inca trebuie sa se mai ieftineasca. As vrea sa vad kit-uri de 64GB la 1800-2000 Ron, cu frecvente faine pentru Ryzen la 2300-2500Ron.
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