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09-11-2020, 19:53
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#8541
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10-11-2020, 15:01
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#8542
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Originally Posted by madhorsefuzzy
Dar banuiesc ca 5800X se vinde mai greu ca nu prea ... e interesant la 450EUR.
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Da, pretul nu e interesant. Dar pentru gaming si ca performante in general mi se pare foarte bun. E cam caldut, dar fara probleme.
Cinebench pe exemplarul personal
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10-11-2020, 19:28
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#8543
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Am luat un 5600x. Primul procesor AMD dupa muulti ani.
Am cateva intrebari, fiind noob la Ryzen.
Momentan nu am modificat nimic in BIOS, doar activat XMP. Placa de baza MSI B550 Tomahawk cu ultimul BIOS update prin flashback.
Temperaturile in idle nu sunt tocmai ideale, in jur de 43-50 grade, in conditiile in care, cu acelasi cooler, imi tinea un 6700k in 30 grade idle, iar ala avea TPD mai mare si OC.
In load sa zicem ca e ok, undeva pe la 69-72 grade.
Core voltage vad ca varianta foarte mult, in idle sta in 1.0-1.1 iar il load se ducea si in 1.3. Nu stiu daca e ok sa il las asa pe auto.
De asemenea, nu prea inteleg boostul asta de 4.6 ghz cum functioneaza la AMD. Ajungea in 100% usage in benchmark dar statea in 4.2 , ajunge cateva secunde in 4.6 , apoi iar scade.
Sunt recomandate ceva setari de optimizare, tips and tricks ? Pe langa schimbat cooler.
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10-11-2020, 19:48
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#8544
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Incearca manual OC cu 1.2-1.25Vcore
PBO si core enhancement sau cum ii zice disabled.
Pornesti de la 44 multi si vezi unde ajungi stabil.
Cu totul auto variaza vcore in functie de load si core usage, iar temperaturile sunt in general mai mari.
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10-11-2020, 20:06
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#8545
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@ Monstru e posibil sa ai timp sa testezi unul din procesoarele 5xxx cu 32 GB in loc de 16 GB pentru o comparatie........sumar, un joc...
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10-11-2020, 22:10
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Originally Posted by walterescuq
@ Monstru e posibil sa ai timp sa testezi unul din procesoarele 5xxx cu 32 GB in loc de 16 GB pentru o comparatie........sumar, un joc...
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Am testat deja in jocuri, vreau sa compar pe 3090 cand am timp si vreau sa testez niste chestii la placile AMD noi. Nu am vazut diferente.
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10-11-2020, 22:38
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#8547
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We are here to laugh at the odds and live our live so well that Death will tremble to take us
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11-11-2020, 12:56
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#8548
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La 35-54W TDP nu e chiar comparabil cu Raspberry Pi...
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11-11-2020, 14:02
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Incep de la 10w, eu zic ca e comparabil avand in vedere ca RPI trage 15w max.
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11-11-2020, 14:49
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#8550
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La RPI nu cumva e max 15w toata placa? La acel AMD e 10W doar procesorul si ce mai are integrat in el. Cu totul (toata placa) poate ajunge la mai mult de 15w.
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11-11-2020, 21:37
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirat
Incearca manual OC cu 1.2-1.25Vcore
PBO si core enhancement sau cum ii zice disabled.
Pornesti de la 44 multi si vezi unde ajungi stabil.
Cu totul auto variaza vcore in functie de load si core usage, iar temperaturile sunt in general mai mari.
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Am incercat ce ai zis (nu-s mare maestru in OC) si pe 5800x am:
- multi x45.5
- voltaj 1.275
- idle temp 40 grade (silent profile la vents)
- load in Prime95 (small FFT) - 85 grade (cu vents spre max) fara erori
Pe long term e OK voltajul asta? Am incercat cu 1.25 si da erori la multi de 45. Frecventa mai mare cere mai mult voltaj si l-as tine mai rece.
Daca mai aveti sugestii m-as bucura. Multumesc.
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12-11-2020, 09:35
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cam pe acolo e si al meu. Voltaj e ok, tine in mare de temperaturi. 1.2-1.25 e sweet spot, dar unele procesoare cer mai mult decat altele.
Pentru bench-uri urca mai sus dar nu e stabil in prime small fft. Eu astept versiuni de bios un pic mai mature si apoi mai incerc. Chiar si bios default cu xmp e overkill pentru jocuri.
@ Monstru dupa ce termini cu placile video, urmeaza si un studiu de overclocking pe seria noua de procesoare?
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12-11-2020, 11:40
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#8553
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13-11-2020, 19:47
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AMD Ryzen 7 5700U Lucienne ‘Renoir Refresh’ 8 Core APU Benchmarks Leak Out, On Par With The Ryzen 7 4800U Flagship - Wccftech
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15-11-2020, 14:56
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This guy
I probably wasn't supposed to do this Ryzen 5950X cooled by Intel Cryo Cooler
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17-11-2020, 14:12
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#8556
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you got to love that guy
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20-11-2020, 02:22
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unele 5800x sa aiba probleme cu temperatura:
I will post the thermals on the new one. Ended up cleaning and repasting the damn thing four times before I decided it was the damn cpu and not my cooler or paste application technic. Called my companies AMD tech group (servers) and had them take a look at it remotely. They have a very handy diagnostic suite that interrogates the hell out of the chip on the hardware level (tried to snag a copy and got my hand smacked (damn); two hours later and they said it was the TIM under the heat spreader. AMD flagged the chip's serial number and are going to RMA it back to the QC lab to figure out what happened and to see if more also got dodgy TIM (the 5800x and 5900s get soldered; not sure about the rest of the series) application in that batch; I doubt enough got messed up to warrant a recall.... at least I hope not. Due to the temperature spikes those cores are now damaged. So I returned it and got a store credit and a promise of a phone call when they get their next shipment. Statistically I was the one to get a dud chip; they randomly test chips after the head spreader is attached before they package them for QC. If they had to test everyone then they would never get them to market. When they test to bin them it is before they place the head spreader and test stability right on the core. They have a solid copper block cooler with a liquid metal pad thingy that they use to cool the core when binning them (have a picture somewhere I got from someone). I have my 3900x till then so I am not sitting with a pile of dismantled computer parts pining for a round of whatever game tickles my fancy at the time.
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-summ...review,19.html
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20-11-2020, 02:44
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vad ca sunt multi useri care au probleme de temp
uite aici la lab501 nu au precizat ca e greu de racit
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20-11-2020, 02:46
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gogu
Pai nu nu, facem film si daca E CUM ZIC EU, sa vad atunci ce mai zici. Dar acum, dupa cat de cocos esti, o sa ma gandesc exact ce si cum vreau in caz ca am dreptate.
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Gogu cum e cu filmuletu?
Monstru ceva update?
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20-11-2020, 10:04
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#8560
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Daca aplici voltaj de numa si dai frecvente sky high e normal sa ai probleme cu temperaturile (mai ales in prime). Temperaturile din prime nu se reflecta in temp daily use.
Eu nu am dat Prime95 test de foarte multa vreme, ca am patit sa fie stabil in small fft si blend si sa mi-o iau in browsing sau la o encodare de 30min.
Primul test de stabilitate e Cinebench20, care daca e rulat de cateva ori iti da o prima impresie de stabilitate si apoi o encodare handbrake de 1080p pe cpu si daca nu crapa e aproape stabil.
Ce am constatat ca la noile gen de Ryzen merge OC cu voltaje considerabil mai mici ca la seria 1 / 2, insa daca pe ryzen 1 sau 2 voltaj de 1.23 nu genera temp mari, acum pe ryzen 3 cam incepi sa ai probleme.
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