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Old 27-05-2020, 10:50   #821
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Z390 are competiție x470 și sunt greu de găsit īn stoc mai ales modele cu pretentii
Īncă studiez problema cu limitări viteze pci express.
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Old 27-05-2020, 10:54   #822
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Este īn stoc... ce limitare de viteze pci express cauți?
Placa ta video va fi ușor limitată de CPU...

Comparație GTX1080 pe i5-7400 și i9-9900k:
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11...3dm11/13260320
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Old 27-05-2020, 11:01   #823
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Chiar mă uitam zilele trecute să fac un build mATX cu i3-9100F (370 lei), cu o placă de bază Gigy Z390M (590 lei), urmānd apoi să caut un kit DDR4 la 3000-3200MHz de 16GB sau 32GB. La care să montez alte componente de la un build mai vechi: un SSD SATA, un HDD, PSU și un GTX1060 3GB.
Build-ul actual fiind folosit de junior, dar are CPU Xeon E3 1275 (i7-2600), MB mATX cu Q77, 2x8GB DDR3 1600MHz.
De ce ai schimba un 4 core 8 threds pentru 4 core 4 threads cu doar 400Mhz in plus la frecventa?
De ce ai investi in Z390?

Nu vad sensul.
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nu vad unde e limitarea de cpu
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:12   #825
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De ce ai schimba un 4 core 8 threds pentru 4 core 4 threads cu doar 400Mhz in plus la frecventa?
De ce ai investi in Z390?

Nu vad sensul.
https://www.3dmark.com/compare/3dm11...3dm11/13182652

https://www.techspot.com/review/1983...u-battle-2020/
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:27   #826
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If B550 Aorus Master <= 600 lei and VRM not bad then buy
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:28   #827
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Tot nu vad investitia in ceva mort. Merita doar daca obtii 2x performanta nu un 10-15%.


L.E. Mai degraba B550 Aorus Master >= 800 lei

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Old 27-05-2020, 12:30   #828
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Amandoi sunteti in aer rau de tot. E MSRP de ~299 USD la placa aia, ffs.
La 600 RON nici B450 mai rasarite nu gasesti, ACUM, dupa 2 ani de cand exista.
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Old 27-05-2020, 12:31   #829
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La 800 lei mai bine pun 200 si iau X570 Aorus Elite
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Ryzen 3 3100 este cu cca. 200 lei mai scump decāt 9100F, īn acest moment.
550 lei, față de 350 lei.


AMD Ryzen 3 3300X and Ryzen 3 3100 Review vs 9100F

DAR reviewul e făcut cu plăci de bază ediții diferite:
1. Intel cu GIGABYTE AORUS Z390 ULTRA = 1370 lei;
2. AMD cu GIGABYTE AORUS X570 MASTER = 2000 lei
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Da dar placi ieftine cu B350 tot gasesti si noi si sh. Adica pe ele poti pune si un 3800x sau 3900x ulterior.

L.E. Gasesti pe naiba. S-a sucit rau piata de componente. Aparent placa mea MSI X370 face 650 lei pe olx. Eu am cumparat-o refurbished cu garantie 12 luni acum 2 ani cu 350 lei.

In noiembrie am cumparat un Gigi B450M S2H cu 200 lei. Fluiera 3600 -le pe ea.

E ciudata rau piata. Poate de la COVID.

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Placa asta ce are ?

https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-de-baz...yte/b450m-s2h/

Duce 3100 sau 3300 fara stres, nu stiu cum va ganditi voi la un procesor de cateva sute de lei sa luati placa cel putin dubla ca pret....
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Placa asta ce are ?

https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-de-baz...yte/b450m-s2h/

Duce 3100 sau 3300 fara stres, nu stiu cum va ganditi voi la un procesor de cateva sute de lei sa luati placa cel putin dubla ca pret....
Nu are 4 sloturi de RAM.
Are un singur slot NGFF M.2.
Nu are 6 conectori SATA, ci doar 4.
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Eu știam ca 2 sloturi de ram sunt mai bine suportate decāt 4
De asemenea, Intel 2.5 gb lan, wifi 6, thunderbolt 3 nu sunt neapărat necesare.
Usb-c nu e negociabil
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Eu știam ca 2 sloturi de ram sunt mai bine suportate decāt 4
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Placa asta ce are ?

https://www.pcgarage.ro/placi-de-baz...yte/b450m-s2h/

Duce 3100 sau 3300 fara stres, nu stiu cum va ganditi voi la un procesor de cateva sute de lei sa luati placa cel putin dubla ca pret....
Eu imi caut o placa pentru Ryzen 7 3700x. Pe asta nu am loc de nimic.
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Eu știam ca 2 sloturi de ram sunt mai bine suportate decāt 4
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La intel nu există asemenea problemă.
E mai ieftin să faci upgrade de RAM mai tārziu.
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Nu are 4 sloturi de RAM.
Are un singur slot NGFF M.2.
Nu are 6 conectori SATA, ci doar 4.
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Eu imi caut o placa pentru Ryzen 7 3700x. Pe asta nu am loc de nimic.
Pe mine ma enerveaza ca nu am unde sa imi montez unitatea floppy.

Am aflat dupa ce am cumparat-o.
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poti sa iei un floppy usb
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"joke". Nu am nici o problema cu placa: zbarnaie 3600-le imperecheat cu un ssd 970 EVO de 1TB si 2x8 GB DDR4 3200 cl14.

Ma intreb cate HDD-uri/SSD-uri carati dupa voi la un build nou de nu ajung 4 sata + 1 M.2 NVME.

La fel cu 4 sloturi DIMM: vinzi 2 mici si cumperi 2 mai mari. Nu neaparat in ordinea asta. De obicei cand chiar ai nevoie sa pui 2 mai mari preturile sunt mult mai mici decat atunci cand ai cumparat 2 mici.

Eu vad asa: cumperi placa de 320 lei si vinzi toate ssd-urile si hdd-urile si cumperi SSD mai mare si hdd-uri mai mari in loc sa cumperi placa de 550 lei si sa pastrezi stocarea veche. Castigi clar in viteza cu noile ssd-uri.

Merita sa tii in sistem 4-5 ssd-uri de 120-240GB sau le vinzi si cumperi 1 de 1TB, eventual NVME (mai mult ca sigur)?

Am 3 sisteme Ryzen in casa care au:
1. 512GB Samsung 960 pro
2. 1TB Samsung 970 EVO
3. 1TB Sabrent NVME + 2TB MX500 SATA

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