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06-10-2017, 15:11
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Pai nu vorbim de average Joe aici. Vorbim dpdv tehnic cum sta treaba.
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06-10-2017, 15:42
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Intel Core i5-8400 2.8 GHz - TPU
Intel Core i5-8600K 3.6 GHz - TPU
Intel Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz - TPU
Intel Core i3-8350K 4.0 GHz - TPU
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06-10-2017, 18:47
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@ Artanis, average Joe nu cumpara CPU de 1700RONI si cu siguranta nu cumpara SSD NVMe de 1000/1500RONI ca sa simta diferenta.
@ crissbm
Ryzen are 16 PCIE 3.0 pentru placile video, 4 lane-uri 3.0 pentru conexiunea cu chipsetul si inca 4 pentru un
- SSD NVMe 4x PCIE 3.0 sau
- 2xPCIE 3.0 SSD + 2 SATA 3.0
Pe langa ele, mai suporta direct 4 USB 3.0
Dupa cum se vede, dpdv al conexiunilor direct din CPU, Ryzen e superior.
Din cate stiu (sper sa nu gresesc), Ryzen mai poate suporta inca 8 PCIE 3.0 lanes, dar acestea nu sunt implementate, probabil datorita costurilor. TR are dublul lor, adica 32*2=64 PCIE, toate laneurile implementate
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06-10-2017, 19:21
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Atata vreme cat discutam de segment mainstream, discutam de Average Joe. Daca discutam de servere sau workstations, oricum n-au ce cauta CPUs si chipset-uri desktop in discutie.
IMO discutia legate de nr. total de PCIe lanes e o simpla tehnicalitate irelevanta pentru userii desktop.
Un user mediu spre entuziast poate ca isi permite CPU si SSD de >1000 de lei fiecare, si cu siguranta nu va simti limitarea pe partea de SSD nvme de la chipset Z270/370.
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06-10-2017, 19:45
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Intel Will No Longer Provide Per-Core Turbo Frequencies, Making Motherboard Tuning Impossible
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[W]e’re no longer disclosing this level of detail as its proprietary to Intel. Intel only specifies processor frequencies for base and single-core Turbo in our processor marketing and technical collateral, such as ARK, and not the multi-core Turbo frequencies. We’re aligning communications to be consistent. All Turbo frequencies are opportunistic given their dependency on system configuration and workloads.
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This information can still be gathered via manual testing (assuming none of the issues above apply), and testing multiple motherboards would be the simplest way to make certain there are no issues affecting one specific model. Ultimately, Intel’s decision to restrict this information seems pointless. It makes it harder for end-users to determine whether their platforms are configured properly without actually preventing the specific information from being discovered. It’s a lose-lose for everyone, and it’s a policy we hope Intel reconsiders.
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Se putea sa nu dea Intel in strachini la nici 24 de ore de la aparatia recenziilor majoritar pozitive pentru Coffee Lake?
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07-10-2017, 07:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Artanis
Atata vreme cat discutam de segment mainstream, discutam de Average Joe. Daca discutam de servere sau workstations, oricum n-au ce cauta CPUs si chipset-uri desktop in discutie.
IMO discutia legate de nr. total de PCIe lanes e o simpla tehnicalitate irelevanta pentru userii desktop.
Un user mediu spre entuziast poate ca isi permite CPU si SSD de >1000 de lei fiecare, si cu siguranta nu va simti limitarea pe partea de SSD nvme de la chipset Z270/370.
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Dar discutam pe un forum de entuziasti unde performanta ochiometrica, raportul performanta/pret si Average Joe nu sunt prea relevante.
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07-10-2017, 08:29
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As zice ca acest forum are membri din toate categoriile mentionate de tine. Cum e si normal.
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07-10-2017, 12:07
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Intel Core i7-8700K and Core i5-8600K Available in Pre-Binned Variants With Up To 5.2 GHz Clock Out of Box, Ultra Edition CPUs With Silver IHS and Liquid Metal TIM - Wccftech
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07-10-2017, 12:09
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w00t :O
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07-10-2017, 12:16
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Unde e cerere e si oferta, mai fac oamenii un ban cinstit , cu toate ca nu stiu cum vor sta cu garantiile, ca Intel cu siguranta nu le va onora.
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07-10-2017, 12:23
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Nimic mai fals, cel putin la delidul clasic, stiu lejer 7 persoane dintre care 2 cu cate peste 3 procesoare date la Intel dupa delid si n a zis nici mar, nici car. Nu stiu daca la serviciile astora, dar la delid clasic, nu se intampla nimic.
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07-10-2017, 12:30
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Astia asigura ei garantia si avand in vedere marimea lor intel le schimba procesoare rupte, indoite, delid,etc.
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07-10-2017, 14:25
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Abia acum are sens faptul ca pun pasta de dinti la restul.
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10-10-2017, 18:34
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Intel Will no Longer Disclose Multi-Core Turbo Boost Frequencies - Guru3d
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11-10-2017, 13:47
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Cannon ori la Ces ori Computex. Cel mai probabil ultima varianta...
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11-10-2017, 13:48
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Aia care se plang e doar vina lor. Iertati ma. Procesorul e belea de belea, balesc la el, sincer.
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11-10-2017, 16:45
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Atunci vorbește cu gura închisă căci împrăștii fluide peste tot! ) Jk
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11-10-2017, 16:50
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Aia care se plang e doar vina lor. Iertati ma. Procesorul e belea de belea, balesc la el, sincer.
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invata sa nu te mai exprimi in asa fel incat sa arunci in fata doar faptul ca tu detii adevarul suprem si restul sunt prosti...
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11-10-2017, 16:53
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Dar eu nu detin nimic, aia e si problema, nici macar acest procesor, ca sa ma bucur de el, sa-mi iau un Gelid Extreme, sa-i fac un delid misto si alte lucruri faine.
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14-10-2017, 13:54
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Overclocking the Intel 8600K Delidded on Air and Water - HardOcp
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