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09-03-2019, 00:34
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La Intel cică suportă și din chipset 24 PCIe lanes, în afara celor 16 din CPU
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...8,98089,122941
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us...sets/z270.html
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The X270 chipset will have a few more PCI-Express gen 3.0 lanes. The Processir will deliver 16, the chipset has been bumped from 20 (Z170) towards 24 for Z270. The processor and chipset are connected thourgh the DMI interface which Intel kept at 3.0, and that this is a x4 lane link.
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https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,2.html
Z370 și Z390 sunt cam la fel cu Z270:
https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us...8,98089,122941
Last edited by Bugsy004; 09-03-2019 at 00:37.
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09-03-2019, 09:06
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Da, man, dar hai să comparăm mere cu mere, adică CPU-based PCI Express Lanes între generații de procesoare.
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09-03-2019, 09:42
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Păi am comparat mai sus, Xeon SB avea 20 lanes, Xeon KL a intrat la apă la 16 lames.
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09-03-2019, 09:56
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Am înțeles, dar PCI Express lanes de la chipset sunt mai lente decât cele de la CPU.
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11-03-2019, 12:21
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The Z390 chipset has high-speed I/O lanes with port flexibility with up to 24 PCIe 3.0 lanes from the chipset for connections in the I/O like SATA, M.2, USB and so on.
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Se pare că stocarea (sata, m.2) trece prin burta chipset-ului Intel, doar partea grafică comunică direct cu CPU.
Mai studiez problema și revin cu date noi, dacă va fi cazul.
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The chipset will add additional PCIe lanes for your storage connectivity. In-between the processor and the chipset is an updated DMI (revision 3.0) link (equivalent to a full PCIe 3.0 x4 link). Now, you will probably have noticed that many motherboards will offer two or three M.2 storage units. So how would that work out with a x16 gen 3.0 processor you wonder? Well, the Z390 chipset offers 24 PCIe lanes. Extra 3rd party SATA / USB controllers and thus M.2 storage units can draw their bandwidth from here.
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Sursa: https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,2.html
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26-03-2019, 14:10
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Lo, we shall rise up And then we'll make the bugger's eyes water
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26-03-2019, 19:09
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Ne da intel 10 cores pe 14nm.... luati rpd chillerele de la suzuki
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26-03-2019, 20:06
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Din cate stiu eu, poate ma insel, ca deh, nu am tendinta asta de misto ieftin si fatalism, dar intel ofera 10, 12, 14, 16, 18 cores pe 14nm de ceva vreme buna, si nu a explodat planeta inca, de la incalzirea excesiva.
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26-03-2019, 20:22
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Da, dar trebuie sa o fie la o frecventa care sa permita scoruri peste AMD ca altfel vorbim de procesoare de server nu mainstream . Ultima data cand au incercat frecvente mari si nuclee multe au uitat sa faca poze la frigiderul de langa a fost putin fiasco pe partea de PR.
E adevarat ca 14nm de la intel e mai bun decat 12nm de la altii dar totusi, au nevoie de un salt pe partea de proces de fabricatie.
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26-03-2019, 20:27
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E peste 10nm de la multi, de fapt, dar e irelevant oricum, zilele litografiei clasice sunt numarate, pina vine UV.
Iar ultima oara vorbeam de 28 cores monolitic la 5GHz, care avea nevoie de racire stupida, e mare diferenta de la 10 la 28 afaik.
Da, trag si e de calul mort cat pot, oricum se vand toate. Cand vor avea UV la productia de masa vedem ce si cum, pina atunci asta e situatia.
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03-04-2019, 14:17
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Intel shows off Xeon Platinum CPU with up to 56 cores and 112 threads - Techspot
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25-04-2019, 10:22
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Se pare ca 14nm is here to stay, cel putin cand vine vorba de segmentul desktop pe urmatorii 2 ani...
https://www.guru3d.com/news-story/ne...h-at-14nm.html
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25-04-2019, 10:40
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ceva e ciudat, nu de alta dar Intel spusese ca prin q3/q4 apare un "lake" pe 10nm si suna a fi desktop, nu low power laptop crap.
Daca e adevarat, inseamna ca le dau o sansa celor de la AMD sa mai prinda niste piata.
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25-04-2019, 12:02
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Dupa cum se misca cei de la ASML nu vad bine situatia cu EUV sincer, sunt chestii care dureaza, in special la Intel, plus ca inca stau bine pe piata desktop cu line-up-ul actual si le tin si eu pumnii la AMD sa mai puna ceva presiune pe piata desktop...
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25-04-2019, 17:41
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26-04-2019, 14:59
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Deci Intel pana in 2021 nu aduce nimic sub 14nm +++++++
AMD trebuie sa traga tare ca JIM KELLER sigur scoate ceva smecher si la INTEL . Sper sa le iasa si ROME si ZEN2 . Poate sschimb si eu tabara , pe fratimio l-am convins si nu regreta deloc .
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26-04-2019, 15:32
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Le urez multa sanatate si succes celor de la AMD ca Intel s-au puturosit rau de tot si oricum au niste preturi cam scarboase.
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29-04-2019, 16:52
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29-04-2019, 17:23
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„152 of 14” - calculat cu un CPU Intel
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