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28-11-2017, 12:16
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AMD a confirmat la inceput clar ca AM4 va fi ok pentru 3 generatii parca, deci e clar ca va fi ok. Doar accentuam faptul ca socket identic nu inseamna automat si compatibilitate (vezi Intel 1151)
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Tocmai asta ar fi fost interesant! Sa poti folosi aceeasi placa de baza si cu urmatoarele revizii de procesoare. Gen sa pot pune un Ryzen II pe un X370 macar, daca nu si mai jos o treapta!
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28-11-2017, 14:08
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Poate Ryzen 2 va avea mai multe PCIE laneuri, sa zic 28, atunci ai nevoie de o alta MB ca sa poti conecta mai multe dispozitive.
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28-11-2017, 15:11
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Din cate am inteles, urmatorul Ryzen va fi pe 12Nm si va aduce doar din procesul de fabricatie un spor de 10% performanta prin marirea frecventei. Deci un Ryzen la 4-4.5GHz e de asteptat. Daca mai aduce si ceva imbunatatiri pe ici pe colo, vom putea vedea un spor de aproximativ 15% daca nu si mai mare... Threadripper/Epyc se pare ca nu vor beneficia de 12Nm ci urmatoarea versiune va fi direct pe 7Nm.
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28-11-2017, 15:24
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15%+ IPC pentru Ryzen 2 care va apare peste un an (poate mai mult), nu e atat de rau, tinand cont de ce a facut tabara albastra, vezi Skylake+Kaby+Coffee, care au venit doar cu cresteri de frecventa/core-rui mai multe, nu de IPC efectiv.
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28-11-2017, 22:44
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Spotted: Ryzen 3 1200 CPU with Eight Active CPU Cores Enabled - Guru3d
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02-12-2017, 13:52
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AMD Second-generation Ryzen "Pinnacle Ridge" Confirmed to Support AM4
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In the interview, AMD representation James Prior confirmed that the company plans to keep AM4 its mainstream-desktop processor socket all the way up to 2020, which means at least another two to three generations of processors for it.
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02-12-2017, 14:14
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Asta nu inseamna ca nu vor aparea chipseturi mai noi si mai bune. O sa fie ca la SB si Ivy.
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02-12-2017, 14:50
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15%+ IPC pentru Ryzen 2 care va apare peste un an (poate mai mult), nu e atat de rau, tinand cont de ce a facut tabara albastra, vezi Skylake+Kaby+Coffee, care au venit doar cu cresteri de frecventa/core-rui mai multe, nu de IPC efectiv.
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15%+ IPC ar fi grozav! Totusi Doru se referea la performanta adusa de frecventa mai mare...4.4-4.5Ghz... ambele ar fi prea frumos sa se intample!
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02-12-2017, 15:20
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Asta nu inseamna ca nu vor aparea chipseturi mai noi si mai bune. O sa fie ca la SB si Ivy.
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Diferentele dintre placile P67 si Z77 au fost minore. Cred ca nu asta este problema. Daca ai nevoie de chestiile specifice noilor placi, poti linistit sa cumperi una dintre placile noi.
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02-12-2017, 15:27
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Daca AMD nu scoate din joben 4500...ii distruge Intel in septembrie cu 9700K 8/16 ce merge 5000. Si situatia asta e negativa rau noua...
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02-12-2017, 23:04
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N-ar trebui sa fie asa greu, ar trebui sa vedem sporuri pe ambele parti, frecventa si IPC. E o arhitectura noua, neoptimizata si mai e mult loc de imbunatatiri.
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02-12-2017, 23:07
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Nu cred ca vom vedea spor de IPC. Asta vine cu arhitectura noua, nu cu optimizarile. Cu optimizarile, de obicei, vin frecvente mai mari si / sau consum mai mic. Posibil si buguri vechi rezolvate. E posibil sa vedem suport pentru memorii mai rapide eventual.
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04-12-2017, 11:21
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Daca AMD nu scoate din joben 4500...ii distruge Intel in septembrie cu 9700K 8/16 ce merge 5000. Si situatia asta e negativa rau noua...
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As vrea sa vina mai repede acel 9700 , sa nu stam asa de mult pe Coffee lake-ul asta de acum.
9700 se stie daca va fi bazat pe Coffee sau Cannon Lake?
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04-12-2017, 13:50
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Pam pam!
Most enthusiasts prefer motherboards to last over several CPU generations and AMD is listening attentively. If you have already built a Ryzen system and splashed out on a new AM4 motherboard to match, you will likely be delighted to hear confirmation that AMD will keep faith with the platform until at least 2020. Ryzen 2 is on the way and supports AM4, as will the new range of Zen/Vega APUs.
https://hexus.net/tech/news/mainboar...oduct-manager/
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09-12-2017, 23:57
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AMD's new Ryzen 7 2800X teased: 12C/24T at up to 5.1GHz - Tweaktown
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10-12-2017, 00:36
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Daca asta va fi adevarat va fi foarte foarte foarte tare. Daca e pana in 2000 lei, imi voi lua un Ryzen 7 2800.
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10-12-2017, 00:55
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Sfinte Sisoe, pentru mine ar merita chiar mai mult decat Threadripper (ma intereseaza si single core performance pe langa multi-core (encoding)). Si daca scot si 2800x la 449$... Just wow!
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10-12-2017, 01:02
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Si mie mi-ar face cu ochiul 2800X...
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10-12-2017, 02:39
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10-12-2017, 11:23
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^ IPC la care AMD n-a ajuns nici pana acum,desi Intel sta pe loc de 5 generatii.Bad choice sa te marketezi tocmai pe asa ceva AMD!
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