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Old 29-06-2011, 21:45   #1001
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In domeniul mITX m-am documentat mult in ultima vreme sa zic asa.
Da...placute mITX care pentru AMD sunt sublime, dar aproape lipsesc cu desavarsire.
Pe AM3+ am vazut doar Asus. Pentru Lynx nu e anuntat nimic.

Iar ca HTPC, amd e departe. Momentan pe piata mITX e acalmie...se asteapta Zotac Z68-A-E si in europa/sua. La noi abia acum au aparut H67-urile de la gigi/asus.
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Old 29-06-2011, 22:01   #1002
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E normal sa ajunga la noi putine placi mITX din moment ce e o piata de nisa. Si mai normal e sa nu fie placi pentru care nu au fost lansate procesoare.

Rabdare fratilor.
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Old 29-06-2011, 22:47   #1003
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AMD's Next-Generation Opteron "Bulldozer" Chips to Feature Adjustable TDP.
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Old 29-06-2011, 23:02   #1004
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Un mic preview din articolul de maine. A invatat in sfarsit si AMD sa faca un IMC care poate urca memoriile bine

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Old 29-06-2011, 23:06   #1005
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Urca sus,performanta in schimb.....
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Old 30-06-2011, 11:26   #1006
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Asa cine stie poate urca atata si P45 pe DDR3 acuma.
Pe vremea lui nici nu erau memorii capabile >2000, si erau toate cu latente stranse.
IMC-ul ca si performanta e tot la nivel Phenom.
Unicul lucru bun, e ca daca merge la Llano, o sa mearga 2400 si pe Bulldozer.
Sa speram, cu performante superioare.
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FX-8130 ES @ 4.0 ghz fata in fata cu I7 990x @4.0 ghz
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IMC-ul ca si performanta e tot la nivel Phenom.
Daca te-ai fi uitat pe review-urile iesite astazi poate nu vorbeai prostii. Memory bandwidth este peste PII975 dar sub 2500k, desi procesorul e la nivel de Athlon 640.
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Nu-i rau in conditiile in care e probabil prima revizie si in principiu cea mai proasta.
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:04   #1010
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O sa apara si review-ul nostru in scurt timp (max 2 ore). A trebuit sa retestam Llano pentru ca BIOS-ul care ofera performanta finala a aparut abia ieri... Asadar, atentie la ce cititi ca diferentele de performanta sunt MARI
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Daca te-ai fi uitat pe review-urile iesite astazi poate nu vorbeai prostii. Memory bandwidth este peste PII975 dar sub 2500k, desi procesorul e la nivel de Athlon 640.
Poate ai inteles tu ceva gresit, m-am referit la Phenom, Phenom II, Phenom I nu cred ca-l mai mentioneaza nimeni...
E tot acolo IMC-ul ca si performanta/ frecventa.
Mai intrece si el la mustata Thubanul.
La tine peste inseamna 500-1000pct(nesemnificativ)?
Sub 2500K, pai era sub asa sub pe la 13.000 read stock, asa e sub in genunchi.
Si procesorul nu e chiar Athlon, Athlon X4 are 2MB L2 cache, 512b cache/core, asta are 4MB L2 cache, deci 1MB cache/ core.
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The A8-3850 shares the same architecture as Phenom II and Athlon II so it is no surprise that its memory performance is similar to what we have seen before. However, the A8-3850 is slightly faster (~5%) in memory read but is ~4% slower in memory write than a Phenom II X6 1100T. Memory latency is also worse with the A8-3850 as compared to the Phenom II X6.
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:08   #1012
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Inseamna ca testele ce au aparut facute ieri nu-s foarte corecte.

Dane mai usor ca te ia radaru'. Nici Athlon nici Llano nu au L3 cache. Citeste postul lui Matei inainte sa prevestesti apocalipsa.
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:15   #1013
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Na, L2 cache , m-am incurcat nitel in cache-uri.
Da din cate stiu L2 cache-ul e mai rapid decat L3 cache, de aia nu e nici cine stie ce diferenta in aplicatii multithread intre Athlon X4 cu 2MB L2 si Phenom X4 care are 2MB L2+ 6MB L3.
L3-ul e slab rau la Amd.
Asteptam, asteptam...

Mah da astia de la Amd is prosti, prostesc revieweri si nu le dau ce trebuie cand trebuie...
Isi fac reclama proasta ei singuri, acuma cine o sa stie ca reviewurile multe nu-s bune...?
Secret secret da asta era un amarat de Llano, nu Bulldozer.
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:33   #1014
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Uite, ca sa nu va plictisiti . Llano sta bine la memorie

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Old 30-06-2011, 12:51   #1015
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Cand apar in magazine... ?

L.E: Astia au chef de glume:

http://www.oktal.ro/procesor/amd-a8+3850-o60898.html
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:57   #1016
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lulz 700RON!! =)))
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:58   #1017
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Mai vor si ai nostrii sa prinda cativa fraieri...
Ye, mi-am luat Llano, fusion...
Mi-am luat , martoaga la pret de SB

Si la 500 lei va fi scump.
In conditiile in care Athlon X4 640(3ghz) e la 350 lei + 5570 la 220 lei, si iesi superior la gaming. 5570 e micuta si rece si Llano oricum consuma tot cat Athlon X4.
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Old 30-06-2011, 12:59   #1018
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569RON va fi pretul, disponibile de luni
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Old 30-06-2011, 13:02   #1019
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Atunci e ok, plăcile de bază sunt puţin mai scumpe decât mă aşteptam însă per total e ok, mai ales vârful de gamă A8 3850...
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Asa si asa,e cam scump,500 ron ar trebui sa fie.Pai la 430 lei imi iau un PH2 955BE,o placa de baza mai ieftina decat cele pe FM1,si un 6670 si ies in aceiasi bani cu un 3850+placa de baza,si cu un procesor care merge sigur 4 ghz,multiplicator deblocat,video mai performant.

Deci unde e combinatia?
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