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Old 06-04-2021, 12:19   #18461
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Ar trebui la jumatate de pret din pretul de lansare, vise, vise...
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Old 06-04-2021, 17:57   #18462
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Eu pe placa de baza de 50$ msi b450 max am resize bar enabled testat. Pt suport am forumuri si pot deschide tichet cat am garantie. Sa ne intelegem, pt z77 hedt au zis ca nu ofera suport acum 5 ani.
Ai 5xxx? Sau ai reusit cumva pe 3xxx?
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Old 07-04-2021, 08:57   #18463
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Maximum troll de la Asus, Z370 end of life si nu va primi ReBAR:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthrea...e26#post830900

Pare ca e ultimul produs ROG pe care il cumpar, ma asteptam la suport mai premium pentru preturile platite...
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Old 07-04-2021, 11:38   #18464
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Problema e că voi puneți botul la etichete și mizerii de marketing și aveți impresia că în loc de o placă video obișnuită (ce va valora aproximativ o legătură de praz peste câțiva ani) ați cumpărat ceva exclusivist și deosebit.

Ați cumpărat vanitate la kil, atât.
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Old 07-04-2021, 12:23   #18465
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Confirm.
Am construit pentru vinzare 2 PC-uri, avut pe mina o RTX3080 de la Palit modelul GamingPro, cea mai ieftina implementare din serie pe un sistem cu 9700K stock. Placa mergea fara sa ating voltajul, +231MHz GPU in superposition si, atentie, +2000MHz memoriile la un test de hashrate, lasat citeva ore, fara sa faca thermal throttling! Apoi o MSI SuprimX, cea cu 3 alimentari de 8 pini, cred ca cea mai masiva implementare de 3080 de pe piata (nu stiu cit de mare e HOF Galaxy sau Aorus Extreme). Maxim +160-170MHz GPU in superposition iar memoriile la +1275MHz, in hashrate se bloca dupa citeva minute, la 1300MHz crapa si in idle (driver recovery). Ambele testate pe acelasi sistem cu 9700K.
SuprimX avea fata de Palit, circa 9-11 grade celsous mai putin la temperaturi, atit la GPU cit si la memorii, fanuri auto in ambele cazuri.
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Old 07-04-2021, 14:46   #18466
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Old 07-04-2021, 15:57   #18467
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@DjLeco - nu poti compara 2 placi prin perspectiva offsetului ... +xxx MHz, pentru ca probabil frecventele out of the box erau diferite, la fel cele de boost, sunt convins ca MSI-ul e impins la max din fabrica

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Old 07-04-2021, 16:08   #18468
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La memorii nu este valabil, la toate placile frecventa este stoc. Poate extreme-ul de la Aorus are ceva in plus. Eu la asta ma refeream.

OC de la maxim 1250MHz obtinuti stabil la MSI, pina la la 2000MHz obtinuti stabil la o amarita de Palit, (ore in sir) si mai ales la "cuptoarele"de GDDR6X, e ceva HUGE !
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Old 07-04-2021, 16:26   #18469
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+2000 la memorii este urias ... dar cred ca stii si tu asta tine exclusiv de bulan si alte chestii pe care le-ai facut (ex ai redus/limitat frecventa GPU si ai un mic buffer de voltaj)
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Repet, n-am umblat la niciun voltaj, la nimic altceva, decit am scazut powerlimit la GPU sa vad cit "duc" memoriile maxim, cu minim de consum, similar in ambele cazuri.
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Old 07-04-2021, 17:15   #18471
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Pai tu n-ai umblat, insa daca GPU nu suge maxim, memoria are ceva buffer
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Pai eu stiam ca au VRM-uri separate si independente, nu comune... Ma insel?

Oricum in orice caz si situatie, mult mai buna implementarea de Palit (ca performante overall) vs Msi SuprimX, care daca nu ma insel e TOP-ul de la MSI...
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Old 07-04-2021, 18:35   #18473
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intotdeauna a fost cu limita la 3080, daca faceai oc la gpu sau voltaj memoriile nu mai urcau asa mult, inclusiv pe aorus master
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Old 11-04-2021, 12:15   #18474
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Ai 5xxx? Sau ai reusit cumva pe 3xxx?
Ryzen 3 3100 cu sam enabled detalii pe topicul rx 5700xt

https://forum.lab501.ro/showthread.php?t=22908&page=6

Jensen mai pregateste o comoara ascunsa in bucatarie, eu zic pas
https://www.igorslab.de/hidden-treas...-zur-gtc-2021/
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Old 11-04-2021, 13:05   #18475
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Ryzen 3 3100 cu sam enabled detalii pe topicul rx 5700xt

https://forum.lab501.ro/showthread.php?t=22908&page=6

Jensen mai pregateste o comoara ascunsa in bucatarie, eu zic pas
https://www.igorslab.de/hidden-treas...-zur-gtc-2021/
Am reusit, multam cu sanatate. Era sub nanaul meu prin setarile din BIOS. Tu ai testat mai mult, cam ce spor de performanta iti aduce?!
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Old 11-04-2021, 13:35   #18476
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Perfomanta este fantastica tinde spre ~0 infinit
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Eu am obtinut zero virgula negativ si am dezactivat.
Cei cu nvidia si amd 6000 puteti obtine maxim 3% teoretic
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Old 11-04-2021, 15:50   #18478
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Chiar nu înțeleg de ce este resizable bar considerat holly grail de către unii.
Teoretic sună bine, posibil pe viitor să existe îmbunătățiri pe partea asta, dar la modul realist testele de aici mi se par suficiente pentru o concluzie de bun simț: https://www.techpowerup.com/review/n...ce-test/2.html

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În anumite situații, ce nu se regăsesc des pe PC-urile normale, aduce un plus vizibil.
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Old 11-04-2021, 21:28   #18480
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3 benchuri, in Odyssey si FarCry:ND egal, in Valhala am de la 67 la 72fps(si am dat testul de cel putin 4-5 ori, in 2K setari custom, sa fiu sigur). Deci pastrez optiunea momentan. Iar pentru fiecare titlu nou, nu ma deranjeaza sa fac un mic test inainte sa vad cum se pupa.

E clar ca nu va face minuni, aprind o lumanare pentru +, iar pentru ca n-am tras de slidere n-avem dreptul sa ne plangem, se poate activa/dezactiva la un click distanta, mai mult decat atat, are suport si pentru configuratii mai vechi. In unele e 0 sau sensibil -, in altele cum ar fi Gears 5 e substantial in +.
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