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Old 21-08-2018, 10:05   #14721
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Cand apar review-urile ?
Cand expira NDA-ul ... si nu stim cand expira NDA-ul pentru ca este sub NDA.


Chiar sunt curios ce performanta au in jocuri, pentru 600 euro in plus nu se justifica pentru niste umbre.

La banii aia cumperi 1080Ti + 2070Ti acum
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Old 21-08-2018, 10:41   #14722
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Eu unul stau 100% pe aceasta placa, pina apare pe piata litografia de 7nm la placile video (strict nvidia fiind interesat):

https://www.gigabyte.com/us/Graphics...USX-WB-11GD#kf

Cumparata cind era 4200 lei, la iarna face primul an de folosinta.

Am vaga impresie (si sper sa nu fie doar impresia/parerea mea) ca au scos acum si virful de lance pe piata (2080Ti), tocmai pentru ca se va lansa la anul probabil (nu stiu nimic exact, scriu doar din auzite), litografia de 7nm la placi video, unde AMD deja lucreaza.

Posibil ca AMD sa faca o figura frumoasa cu placile video pe 7nm, om vedea.

Stiind asta, au gindit strategia sa traga cit de multi bani pot pe seria asta de placi video scoasa, la preturi ceva mai maricele, scotind si 2080Ti pentru "entuziasti", pentru ca acum din partea AMD nu exista nimic competitiv financiar/performanta pe piata.

Cred ca si la ei se "lucreaza acum" pentru 7nm, iar cind AMD vor scoate seria pe 7nm, sa nu-i prinda cu izmenele in vine, sa scoata si ei ceva, si atunci sa isi permita (eventual) sa scada preturile (pentru valoarea lor normala) la seria 2xxx.

Totodata dupa cum stiti, sint inca multe 1080Ti si 1070-/1070Ti pe piata la magazine din nebunia minatului, si trebuiesc vindute.

Tocmai de aceea, nefiind oferta de la AMD pe piata, isi permit sa puna preturi mari la seria 2xxx, astfel incit sa mai vinda cit mai multe 1080Ti, 1070Ti si 1070 seria noua fiind inca "expensive".

Probabil ca vor scadea in momentul lansarii oficiale sau dupa o luna, in functie de "cum merg treburile" a seriei 2xxx, un 5-10% la generatia GTX1xxx, modelele de top enumerate mai sus, dar au si un 10-15% pret mai mare la RTX2xxx, deci oricum win-win (doar de partea lor)...

Va exista multa fraierime, sau "uooameni cu bani", ce vor cumpara ca chiorii RTX2080Ti, RTX2080 si RTX2070, iar cei mai "sarmani" si dezamagiti de preturi (avind deja banii pentru o RTX2080Ti in speranta de pret 1000 usd/euro bucata), isi vor baga picioarele in 2xxx si vor lua 1080Ti.

Strategia Nvidia este la superlativ pentru a face bani din noua arhitectura si a mulge vaca pina ajunge piele si os la generatia GTX1xxx, iar beneficiile noastre sint de [email protected]

Eu asa vad treaba...

Asta se intimpla cind esti singurul de pe piata cu oferte.
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Old 21-08-2018, 11:20   #14723
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Uite aici un video sa nu mai vorbesti prostii cum ca Nvidia rezolva placile video vechi din driveri.
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Old 21-08-2018, 12:19   #14724
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Uite aici un video sa nu mai vorbesti prostii cum ca Nvidia rezolva placile video vechi din driveri.
Daca lasi driverul ala vechi, e ok. Numai sa meraga cu noul joc.
Dar mai trebuie sa stii si sa tai macaroana Windows-ului ca sa nu dea jos ultimii driveri.
Nu le rezolva neaparat prin scadere performanta (au grija producatorii de jocuri de asta), ci, mai ales, prin imbunatatirea unor performante numai pentru placi el noi. Desi ar putea in mare masura si pentru cele vechi (mai ales acolo unde schimbarea de arhitectura este inexistenta)
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Old 21-08-2018, 13:12   #14725
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Reveniti la monitoare Full HD
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Grafik...aider-1263244/
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Old 21-08-2018, 13:31   #14726
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Aia e grafica?!?
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Old 21-08-2018, 13:33   #14727
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Mi se pare mie sau arata naspa ? ( edit : adica jocul Tomb Raider )
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Old 21-08-2018, 13:37   #14728
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Mai, sunt misto umbrele alea, nu fiti rai
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Old 21-08-2018, 16:06   #14729
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Cu un asemenea trend singurul lucru pe care-l pot extrapola este ca un GTX 2080 TI ar costa minim 1500 de Dolari. Ceea ce ar duce urmasul lui 1080 in sfera pretului de 1000 de Dolari iar urmasul lui 1070 la pretul actualului 1080 Ti.

Asa ca fara un AMD competitiv, Nvidia nu au de ce sa ne menajeze pe noi ca si consumatori.
Well, din fericire previziunea mea nu s-a adeverit. Dar 1200 de dolari la lansare si 1000 de dolari mai incolo cu versiunile custom? Versiuni custom care daca ma uit bine pe Newegg sunt toate peste pretul de 1200 de dolari?

In cel mai optimist caz Nvidia tocmai ne-a tras o "taxa de fraier" de 300+ dolari la cel mai puternic single GPU[de la 700 la 1000 de dolari]. Vreau si eu inapoi zilele cand cel mai puternic single GPU nu trecea de 400 de dolari. Cer prea mult?
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Old 21-08-2018, 17:18   #14730
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Da, normal ca ceri prea mult.

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Old 21-08-2018, 17:38   #14731
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Hai nu 400, dar macar 649 ffs...
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Old 21-08-2018, 20:57   #14732
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Mda. Deci GTX1080 ftw. Nu e de schimbat de la Pascal la Turing pentru muritorul de rand.
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Cred ca pentru muritorul de rind ar trebui dat "skip" la seria asta si asteptat 7nm.
Eu asa voi proceda.

Pacat ca prostimea de la noi si de afara vor "pune botul".
Dar sa nu fiu rau, designul Nvidia imi place, arata frumos.
Totusi, prea scump pentru ce ofera.
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Old 21-08-2018, 21:04   #14734
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De la inceputul video-ului s-a vazut ca e marketing curat... umbre pentru 1200 de dolari...
@DjLeco ai dreptate, o sa fie destui fraieri care pentru bani respectiv o sa -si cumpere niste "umbre".. probabil voi fi si eu la un moment dat, ca deh, trebuie sa fii in pas cu tehnologia
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Eu n-am vazut umbrele, un video in care se observa clar, "umbrele"?
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Old 21-08-2018, 22:11   #14736
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Eu cred ca trebuie asteptate reviewurile ca sa ne putem pronunta clar asupra performantei. 2070 pare ok plus ca sa vedem daca mai au multe stocuri de 1080 s 1080Ti si le prica preturile nu are chiar " efect rau" lansarea. Adica cine n-ar vreo o 1080Ti la 500-550E si o 1080 la 350E?
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Filme erotice, am curaj sa fac pariu ca mai mult de 10% nu vor scadea placile de top din seria GTX1xxx la aparitia in magazine a seriei 2xxx.
Poate doar 1070 si 1060 sa scada mai mult dar Ti-ul nu prea cred, ba cred ca nu va scadea deloc in prima perioada.
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Carcoteala si dupa o ora ce apar perfomantele sold 1080ti a scazut sub 700$
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