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Old 30-06-2011, 15:25   #1041
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Hai cu articolu` ca nu mai am rabdare.
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Old 30-06-2011, 15:27   #1042
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1. Eu nu inteleg ce vrei. A scos intel vreodata un APU de complexitatea Llano? Give them a fucking break.

2. Ai sa cumperi Llano?

3. Daca nu atunci inseamna ca nu ai cum sa intelegi cui se adreseaza.
1. Nu a scos si nici nu cred ca o sa scoata in viitorul apropiat
2. Nu
3. Ba da, stiu

Poate o sa ma credeti nebun, dar un proc gen Liano (dar pe nm mai putini) s-ar putea sa fie viitorul tabletelor viitoare, sa se joace kinderii jocuri cand ies in parc cu bicicletele intr-o retea adhoc facuta cu wifi-ul

PS: stiu ca nu mie mi-aa fost adresat reply-ul tau, dar am tinut sa subliniez niste chestii pe care le-am spus in postul anterior
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Old 30-06-2011, 15:30   #1043
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Matei sper ca ai inlcus in teste si rezultatele cu Llano in oc. E pacat sa nu se vada sporul adus de posibilitatea oc-ului fata de i3/i5 care nu au posibilitatea asta.
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Intel de ce crezi ca nu s-a obosit sa scoata K-uri pentru i3 si pentru i5 (cu exceptia lui 2500)?
A asteptat miscarea AMD.
Daca o sa incerce sa scoata AMD capul cu OC-ul lui Liano, imediat baga si ei pe banda un i3 2100K pe la 500-600 lei, cu care sa-i ingroape

PS: ce bun ar fi un automerge la posturile astea consecutive

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Old 30-06-2011, 15:31   #1044
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Matei sper ca ai inlcus in teste si rezultatele cu Llano in oc. E pacat sa nu se vada sporul adus de posibilitatea oc-ului fata de i3/i5 care nu au posibilitatea asta.
Stai linistit ca nici AMD nu se overclockeaza prea bine

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Old 30-06-2011, 15:35   #1045
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Pai tocmai aia e problema ca nu se overclockeaza.Orice phenom 2 mai nou merge 4 ghz lejer,iar asta nu...
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Old 30-06-2011, 15:44   #1046
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Nu cumva OC-ul asta dupa care sunteti disperati cu totii este afectat de grafica integrata
sau voi vreti si cu p... in p.... si cu sufletul in rai
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Old 30-06-2011, 15:48   #1047
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Normal ca afecteaza si grafica integrata. Dar in bine.

Faza cu oc-ul, oricit de mic ar fi el, e relevanta fiindca intel au fost magari din punctul asta de vedere cind nu au scos un dual deblocat.
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Old 30-06-2011, 15:48   #1048
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Si SB quad are grafica integrata, ce-i drept nu de aceeasi anvergura, si nu are probleme cu oc.
Sa zicem ca e bun Llano, dar pretul e nitel cam mare .
HTCP, HTCP, dar cumperi un i3 2100 cu o H61 mITX la 350 lei + 6570 si iesi mai bine.
Oc-ul nu ai ce sa-l mai bagi in discutie dev, ca segmentul ala care pentru care zici tu ca e Llano, nu va face oc in veac.
Placile pentru Llano nu vor fi asa ieftine ca trebuie sa aiba un VRM cat de cat.
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For example, you could get better performance if you bought a Radeon HD 6570 and an Athlon II X4 640 for $175 vs. a A8-3850 for $135. With dual-graphics in play you could add a discrete GPU to the A8-3850 and have better overall performance (in theory) than the discrete card by itself. In practice, limiting dual-graphics to only DX10/11 titles does hurt some of its potential. In my opinion the better solution here would be more aggressive pricing on the Llano APUs. The Athlon II X4 + Radeon HD 6570 is a better buy (unless you want the power savings of the A8), the only way to truly combat that is for the A8-3850 to drop in price.

If gaming isn't something you're going to be doing then you're better off with Sandy Bridge. And at that point there's no need to spring for the Core i3-2105, the standard 2100 will do just fine
http://www.anandtech.com/show/4476/amd-a83850-review/9

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Old 30-06-2011, 15:51   #1049
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Ai facut tu oc la 2500 non K?

Faptul ca Llano merge pina la 50% oc din bus nu-i putin lucru fata de intel care nu merg nici 10%.
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Old 30-06-2011, 16:04   #1050
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De ce bagi bus-ul in discutie cand era vorba de voltaj/frecventa.
Putea sa mearga la 3.9ghz Llano cu 1.3v si sa se vada clar ca e limitare de bus, da aici se vede altceva.
Plus ca miscarea asta cu multiplicator blocat e iar de neinteles, ce-i costa sa puna multiplicator deblocat.
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Old 30-06-2011, 16:14   #1051
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Probabil va urma un model mai scump dar cu multiplicatoarele deblocate...
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Old 30-06-2011, 16:14   #1052
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Deci asta este problema la Bulldozer.Pacat de AMD.
O intrebare: Cum de AMD nu schimba arhitectura odata la 1,5-2 ani ca Intel?
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Old 30-06-2011, 16:14   #1053
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neah. Nu cred, păstrează procesoarele cu multi deblocat bulldozer-ului, zic eu.
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Old 30-06-2011, 16:28   #1054
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O intrebare: Cum de AMD nu schimba arhitectura odata la 1,5-2 ani ca Intel?
AMD nu dispune de posibilităţile pe care le are Intel.
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Old 30-06-2011, 17:02   #1055
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Si daca il debloca la ce folos? Tot nu urca in frecventa cum trebuie, nu multiplicatorul e limitarea aici, ci procesul tehnologic pe 32nm
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Old 30-06-2011, 17:04   #1056
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Bine bine,hai scoate articolul ala odata
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Old 30-06-2011, 17:07   #1057
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E la corectat, ho
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Old 30-06-2011, 17:09   #1058
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il corectati pe parcurs (presupun ca te referi la litere mancate si chestii de genul asta)
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Old 30-06-2011, 17:54   #1059
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S-a făcut linişte , toată lumea citeşte.

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Old 30-06-2011, 18:35   #1060
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So... nu prea am cuvinte pentru genul de platforma, personal nu mi se potriveste deloc, dar sunt sigur ca sunt utilizatori care sunt incantati de noua jucarie de la AMD. Review foarte bun, cum am fost obsnuiti si nu ma asteptam la mai putin.
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