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01-07-2015, 20:52
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#6401
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jocker
@fubu diferenta in Witcher 3 este de 20% si ar trebui sa o simti fara sa vezi FPS-urile, ca idee 20% este sporul de performanta minim acceptat pentru care se numeste ca ai facut upgrade la o placa video.
La toate placile video cu cat te apropii de varful ierarhiei sporul de performanta nu mai este proportional cu pretul, hai sa ne uitam la limita minima (400$) si in aceeasi tabara, de exemplu R9 390 (cu X si fara) si R9 290 (cu X si fara) unde sporul de performanta este de 10%, iar pretul cu ~30% mai mare, sau poti compara direct R9 390 cu X si fara.
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am mai fost discutia asta de cateva ori, la orice produs exista niste clase de pret:
1) low level
2) bang for the buck
3) za shit.
daca primele 2 clase se pot intersecta, ultima are un singur scop clar, sa se bata cu cele mai tari produse din aceeasi gama. Pretul NU conteaza, think veyron
@joker, @Fubu sunteti oameni care vor placile care pica in clasa nr2, intelegeti ca exista oameni pentru ca banii nu conteaza atat de mult si vor "za shit".
@Dj Leco 980 nu s-a vrut de la inceput a fi varful de gama pentru nVidia, nici pe departe. La cum au decurs ultimele 3 generatii cam toata lumea stia ca trebuie sa apara un Titan care sa il bata dpdv al performantei si o placa cu 10-15% performante mai mici insa la un pret MULT mai mic. Dpmdv 980 are un loc foarte clar in ierarhie, insa nVidia a abuzat grav la pret, hence 980 e in clasa 3.
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01-07-2015, 20:56
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#6402
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fubu
Eu evit acest site, intrucat sunt la pescuit oamenii... cross fury x comparat cu single 980ti si single Titan X :| Au scazut AMD pretul pentru Fury X la 350$ si nu stiu eu?
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eu nu inteleg review-urile specifice CFX/SLI care contin jocuri ce NU au aceasta capabilitate. vezi batman, hitman, practic 2 pagini degeaba
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01-07-2015, 21:19
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#6403
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Retail AMD Fury X Sound Testing - Pump Whine Investigation
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We had already started bringing in a pair of additional Fury X retail cards from Newegg in order to do some performance testing, so it seemed like a logical next step for us to test these retail cards in terms of pump noise as well.
First, let's get the bad news out of the way: both of the retail AMD Radeon R9 Fury X cards that arrived in our offices exhibit 'worse' noise, in the form of both whining and buzzing, compared to our review sample.
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Un pic de clickbait, un pic de jurnalism investigativ. Eh, not bad.
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01-07-2015, 21:50
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#6404
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PowerColor Radeon R9 390 PCS+ 8GB review - Guru3d
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01-07-2015, 21:51
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#6405
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DjLeco
Si la mina a fost exact in prima versiune de joc, n-am mai intrar sa verific.
De atunci au aparut daca nu ma insel si 2 seturi de drivere noi...
O sa incerc cind am nitel timp, si revin...
Acum am vazut ca tu ai video AMD, deci posibil de la driveri, pisicile masii...
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Astept feedback, sper sa se rezolve... putem vb pe PM sau pe topicul jocului ca aici suntem off
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01-07-2015, 22:10
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Cel mai corect, Tudor, poti muta discutia la joc, multumim!
EDIT, am updatat jocul (s-a updatat singur), am pus si ultimele drivere video si tot asa face, uneori, desi freamerate-ul nu scade sub 45-43 fps, sacadeaza imaginea.
Culmea, l-am lasat 1-2 min cit sa iau aparatul foto sa fac filmare si cind am dat sa filmez, mergea ca uns...
Al dre-q...
Oricum nu prea inteleg eu ce naiba trebuie facut in acel joc, nu sint familiarizat cu RPG...
Last edited by DjLeco; 01-07-2015 at 23:22.
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01-07-2015, 22:12
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#6407
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@ EXxx cei care platesc oricat doar sa aiba "za shit" sunt putini, majoritatea sunt din a doua categorie, oameni care cumpara dupa monitorul si bugetul care il au, eventual timpul disponibil pentru gaming.
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01-07-2015, 22:38
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#6408
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Sapphire R9 390 Nitro 8GB Review - Kitguru
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02-07-2015, 04:55
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#6409
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DjLeco
Oricum nu prea inteleg eu ce naiba trebuie facut in acel joc, nu sint familiarizat cu RPG...
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Apesi J si ai la dispozitie niste misiuni, dai click pe ea si se selecteaza, in prima categorie sunt cele legate de poveste, in a doua si a treia obtii tot felul de abilitati (armura, puteri, vraji), trebuie sa mergi in paralel cu ele, altfel nu faci fata. Daca acum il joci prima oara este destul de complicat de inteles, trebuie sa stii ce vinzi si ce cumperi, ce iti trebuie pentru upgrade-uri, practic abia pe la jumatatea jocului iti vei da seama de fapt cum trebuia sa faci, mai ales jocul cu carti o sa-ti manance zilele. Oricum Witcher 3 merita jucat si inteles.
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Last edited by Jocker; 02-07-2015 at 05:04.
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02-07-2015, 09:16
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#6410
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pensionar...ciocu' mic
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02-07-2015, 10:31
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#6411
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mascotzel
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Fury X, pump revisited
... the Asestek tricK:
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Last edited by rage fuury; 02-07-2015 at 17:43.
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02-07-2015, 18:21
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#6412
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02-07-2015, 20:25
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#6413
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Anand's review... finally
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02-07-2015, 20:25
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#6414
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@ Jocker : Eu cred ca nici AMD nu stiu inca:P
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03-07-2015, 09:45
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#6415
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Originally Posted by Jocker
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Overclocking du GPU Fiji
Contrairement Ã* ce que nous vous indiquions lors de la publication originale de ce dossier, il est possible d'overclocker la mémoire HBM, ou tout du moins un domaine de fréquence qui y est lié.
Rappelons que plusieurs domaines de fréquences peuvent être exploités dans un GPU et qu'il est difficile de savoir avec certitude tout ce qui est impacté par une modification de fréquence. Pousser celle du bus mémoire pourrait ainsi également avoir un impact sur une autre partie du sous-système mémoire du GPU, ce qui inclus le cache L2, les ROP etc. Nos tests n'ont cependant pas mis en évidence de différence notable sur ce point entre Fiji et ses prédécesseurs.
Nous pouvons observer qu'overclocker le GPU de 8% apporte un gain de 2.3 Ã* 6.6% avec une moyenne de 5.0% au niveau de notre indice, si nous ne prenons pas en compte Project Cars qui est limité par le CPU au niveau des pilotes AMD.
Un même overclocking de 8% de la mémoire HBM entraîne une augmentation des performances de 0.8 et 4.6%, avec une moyenne de 2.5%. Son impact est donc moindre en pratique que l'overclocking du GPU. A l'exception de GRID 2, les gains les plus importants se retrouvent assez logiquement dans les jeux pour lesquels nous avons activé un niveau élevé de MSAA.
En moyenne le gain de l'overclocking combiné s'élève Ã* 7.4%. Les performances sont boostées de 5.4 Ã* 8.3% selon les jeux, un petit dépassement du gain théorique maximal qui peut s'expliquer par la précision de nos mesures limitée Ã* 0.1 fps ainsi qu'Ã* la marge d'erreur lors de ces mesures.
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/937-...-gpu-fiji.html
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..."Droppin off these Fury X Firestrike Ultra 4k benches and a quick synopsis of my experience with the card since last Friday (6/26 overnight shipped from Newegg, placed order on 6/24 at 2:25pm EST right after the auto-notify came in) .
http://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/5276383/fs/5256512
Benchmarks/ OC: The card is an XFX Fury X OC'd with MSI Afterburner (Driver = 15.15.1004-150619a-185674E) and one of the lucky few without any coil whine. I was able to overclock the memory to ~650 max but that created heavy artifacting. It runs stable with a +80-100MHz memory overclock and core pushed +85MHz. On the scores the 4225 was with a 2500k pushed to 4.8GHz and the Fury X at 1135 MHz core with 600 MHz memory. The 3816 was with CPU at 4.4 GHZ and Fury X stock clocks.
Gaming: Playing Tomb Raider, Assassins Creed: Black Flag, GRID Autosport, Grey Goo, Lego Pirate's of the Carribean at 45-60FPS with no dips below 35 at 4K (VSR). To get these frame rates my settings are AA off, shadows set high (no soft shadows, HBAO set to - or low) everything else Max/Ultra. Coming from an EVGA ACX 2.1 SC GTX970 the biggest difference to me is the change in temps and noise. The card feels like even at 100% it's not being pushed very hard based on the sound and heat output. Certainly feels like there's a ton of headroom for overvolting I just hope the chip can handle it and the artifacting at higher clocks can be corrected with some more voltage.
Misc: Another thing I've noticed is the color quality when paired with an IPS monitor is incredible. I've been playing around with the settings in CCC as well as monitor calibrations and scenery has higher dynamic range which subtly makes for a more natural look than any of my previous cards. The stock calibrations feel a bight too bright for TN panels and maybe a bit oversaturated but can be easily turned down and a bit of gamma correction."
Deci, desi oamenii obtin cresteri de performanta si primesc artefacte daca sar calul cu frecventa HBM din sliderele Afterburner, memoria pentru Fury nu poate fi overclockata .. Something fishy
LE: Un update a venit tocmai de la cei ce au postat stirea: AMD Fury X Memory Can Be Overclocked, Here’s How – Fury X HBM And Voltage Evidently Not Locked, Benchmarks Included
http://wccftech.com/unlock-memory-ov...g-amd-r9-fury/
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03-07-2015, 16:40
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#6416
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XFX R9 390X Double Dissipation Review - Vortez
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03-07-2015, 17:06
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#6417
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rage fuury
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Wh..
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At 2560x1440 the card loses its status as a viable alternative. AMD’s performance deficit is over 10% at this point, and as we’ve seen in a couple of our games, AMD is hitting some very real CPU bottlenecking even on our high-end system. Absolute framerates are high enough that this only occurs at lower resolutions thanks to the high framerates these resolutions afford (and not a problem for 60Hz monitors), however at the same time AMD is also promoting 2560x1440@144Hz Freesync monitors, which these CPU bottlenecking issues greatly undercut.
Once you get to a straight-up comparison, the problem AMD faces is that the GTX 980 Ti is the safer bet. On average it performs better at every resolution, it has more VRAM, it consumes a bit less power, and NVIDIA’s drivers are lean enough that we aren’t seeing CPU bottlenecking that would impact owners of 144Hz displays.
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03-07-2015, 19:41
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AMD Radeon R9 Fury to feature 3584 Stream Processors?
Speculatiile despre Nano mi se par pura fantezie, 4096 SP-uri si 175W nu se potrivesc nicicum indiferent cat ar scadea frecventa la GPU, mai degraba 3072 SP-uri s-ar potrivi acolo, de racirea acestora nici nu mai spun nimic. Iar la Fury sa-i vad cum imperecheaza ei 3584 SP-uri cu 4096 bit ca mie imi da cu virgula, noroc ca in cazul asta va ramane memorie nefolosita spre deosebire de GTX 970 unde era invers.
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03-07-2015, 21:00
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Furious Crossfire
Performance at 4K
"The second Fury X helps Battlefield 4 on the Medium preset at 4K, with a huge 52% increase in performance. But it was on the Ultra preset (minus AA) that had our jaws on the floor with a 97% increase in the average frame rate, with a huge 118FPS. Wow.
Whereas GRID: Autosport wasn't making use of the second Fury X at 1080p and 144p, at 4K we're experiencing a massive 75% increase in performance. Metro: Last Light doesn't enjoy the CrossFire setup as much as the other games at 4K, but we are still seeing a 33% increase in performance.
Yet again, Shadow of Mordor scales so incredibly well on the Fury X cards in CrossFire, where we have a 70% increase in performance at 4K. Thief sees a 73% increase in performance with the second Fury X card in our system, while Tomb Raider continues to impress with a huge 93% over the single HBM-based Radeon R9 Fury X. Lastly, BioShock: Infinite finishes off our impressive run at 4K with the Fury X cards in CrossFire with 86% more performance over the single Fury X. "
http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/72...re/index5.html
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04-07-2015, 01:51
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Specifications of AMD Radeon R9 Fury and AMD Radeon R9 Nano revealed - Kitguru
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