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Old 15-10-2018, 18:08   #9901
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https://videocardz.com/78583/amd-rad...dmark-database

RX 590 Amd Polaris reoverclocked gddr5 ...
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Old 16-10-2018, 16:20   #9902
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Hai ca pe asta n-am mai vazut-o:

AMD Lists New Radeon RX 580, But Now With Less Stream Processors?
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Old 16-10-2018, 17:07   #9903
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La fel ca RX560 si RX560 "Lite".
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Old 17-10-2018, 11:53   #9904
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Inca una de generic: Radeon RX 590 Shows Up On 3DMark Time Spy Results

+1% !!!!!
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Old 17-10-2018, 11:57   #9905
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Inovatie marca AMD.
Apoi dati fuga pe thread-ul Nvidia si ii scuipati pentru scorurile alea.

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Si atunci de ce ne mai miram de preturile la care scot Nvidia?

Sau Intelul ca isi bate joc?

Trebuie un boicotttt general, sa nu mai cumpere nimeni nimic.
Un simplu: FUCK OFF hardware!
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Parcă Óți luai 9900K...
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Old 17-10-2018, 13:55   #9908
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Pai iau pentru ca am vindut ce aveam anterior, insa ma refer la general...
Stiu ca se bat cap in cap...
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Si de ce iti cumperi Intel? Cumpara AMD daca esti ofticat de preturi/minciuni si vrei sa se schimbe ceva.

AMD trebuie sa fie competitiv si pe CPU si pe GPU, dar nimeni nu cumpara AMD...ei doar TREBUIE sa scoata chesti bune si ieftine ca lumea sa-si permita Intel si Nvidia....

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Old 17-10-2018, 14:13   #9910
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Nu ma avantajeaza AMD pt gaming exclusive, nu mai sint familiarizat cu AMD de la Athlon 64-3200 (care a murit cu niste BH5 in circa), si nu-mi place problema cu memoriile.
Astept sa vad cit va costa 9900K.
Ala va dainui minim 3 ani pentru sist de gaming.
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Atunci lasa vitejiile cu boicot, stai cuminte si zi mersi la intel pt "next best thing".
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Boicot in mod special pentru placile video si pentru procesoarele al caror preturi au "explodat", total aiurea, ma refer la cele deja existente prin magazine, seria 8 si seria 7 si mai ales seria 6.

la asta m-am referit in general.
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Adica tu faci boicot cumparand cel mai scump procesor?
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Old 17-10-2018, 15:39   #9914
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Cumpar ce cred eu de cuviinta ca merit si ca imi aduce performantele dorite.

Adica investesc in ceva cu care si produc.

De ex iau 9900K, este un procesor puternic pentru gaming datorita frecventei mari de lucru, estimez sa imi functioneze 24/7 la 4900-5100MHz in loop cu placa video 1080Ti , watercooled serios http://www.shop4pc.ro/radiator-water...k-p-41781.html .
Cind nu ma joc il pun la minat (dau un ex), daca face juma de dolar pe zi (profit curat), in 3,5 ani (presupunind ca se mentine acel juma de dolar pe zi profit curat) si-a scos banii, ma joc "bonus" si nici nu mai dau drumul la caldura la calorifer.

Lucrurile trebuiesc vazute si prin mai multe perspective...

Nu putem discuta despre boicot la i9-9900K pentru ca inca NU stim preturile, inca nu am vazut benchmarks vs 8700K, 7700K, vs AMD echivalent, etc.
Hai sa nu fim hateri total.
Nvidia RTX, desi am banii pentru 2080Ti, NU o cumpar, pina nu o vad pe la maxim 4700 lei cu indulgenta.
NU merita mai mult, cel putin asa consider eu, asta este punctul meu de vedere.

Cit despre CPU, 7700K pe care am dat 16xx lei la magazin la data aparitiei, l-am folosit pina sapt trecuta si l-am vindut cu 1300 lei, consider ca a fost o investitie OK; si-a scos banii o data si am recuperat si circa 60% din investitie.

Oamenii mai cumpara hardware de top si pentru a produce bani cu el, nu neaparat ca sa "dea bine in System Specs" pe forumuri.

Insa niciodata nu as da asemenea bani pe aberatia asta de procesor:

https://www.pcgarage.ro/procesoare/i...50x-30ghz-box/

Sau:

http://www.cel.ro/procesoare/proceso...x-pMyA7NDQo-l/

La astea ma refer ca trebuiesc boicotate, procesoarele al caror preturi au fost umflate artificial.
In special pentru ca nu inteleg majorarea de preturi cind ele erau deja pe stoc la preturile initiale, mult mai mici.

Cum mortii lui poate sa coste un 6700K, seria 6 mai scump decit un 7700K, seria 7?!?


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Old 17-10-2018, 15:53   #9915
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Nu cred ca va scădea la prețul ala vreodata. 1080ti a fost lansat la ~3700 lei, cam c‚t este si acum la 1.5 ani de la lansare, cel puțin Ón magazinele din Ro.
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Nu scad pretul la seria RTX, eu nu cumpar, e simplu.
Si ca mine cred ca sint destui.
2080Ti chiar watercooled edition, nu merita 4-500 euro diferenta fata de 1080Ti pentru ceea ce ofera in plus ca performanta.

Iar cine crede ca vor face treaba cu minatul cu noua generatie GDDR6, s-au inselat amarnic, tzeapa!
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Boicot in mod special pentru placile video si pentru procesoarele al caror preturi au "explodat", total aiurea, ma refer la cele deja existente prin magazine, seria 8 si seria 7 si m ai ales seria 6.

la asta m-am referit in general.
Stii ca pentru explozia preturilor de vina a fost miningul nu AMD si NVidia, nu?
Asta nu inseamna ca Turing nu e scumpa in momentul asta si nici ca AMD trebuie sa re-reinveteze Polaris cand un simplu die-shrink ar putea aduce macar 15% spor de performanta si ar da si de lucru celor de la GloFo care oricum nu pot mai jos de 12nm...

Asa ca hai s-o lasa mai usor cu boicotul pe scari, mai ales cand tintim un 9900K care mai mult ca sigur o sa aiba si el un raport pret/performanta absolut ingrozitor
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De unde stii tu despre raportul pret performanta la i9-9900K?

Ai vazut pe undeva benchmarks cu el (LAB501, pe ei ii cred 100%), vs 8700K sau 8086K sau 7700K (restul mai jos nu mai conteaza pe linia Intel, cel putin pt mine)?

Ai vazut cumva price listed in .ro?

Vreau si eu!

Va place frate sa vorbiti aiurea...

Explozia preturilor a fost din prostia lacomiei unora, eu am o intrebare:

In febra mining, am vazut 1080Ti la garage care costa 7000+ lei.

Nvidia sau producatorii de placi video au livrat la pretul de aparitie initial, lotul nou de placi care au aparut in magazine la preturile mari, sau le-au livrat magazinelor la preturi marite si ei, astfel incit Garage sa justifice pretul de 7000+ lei cerut pe o GTX1080Ti?

La fel si despre 6700K sau vechitura asta, pe care acum nici 3000 lei nu as plati:


https://www.pcgarage.ro/procesoare/i...50x-30ghz-box/
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Ce-i drept n-am vazut, dar sper ca realizezi ca nu poate fi mai ieftin decat asta:

https://www.price.ro/preturi-intel-s...97900x-1640269

... Si poate realizezi si ce ti-a spus mbc si restul ca e absurd sa indemni la boicot din motive de pret cand tu personal tintesti un procesor de peste 5000 lei cu max 20% mai performant decat unele care costa mai putin de jumatate
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Daca procesorul va costa in asa hal, desi ce am citit pe net si pe aici pe LAB501 (nu mai gasesc postarea) cit si prin alta parte ar fi pina in 600USD (Euro la noi cu tot cu adaosuri), ma CAC pe el, iau un cpu mai ieftin care sa mearga pe placa Z390 si asta e.

Eu intentionez sa iau 9900K daca este pina in 3000 lei.

Mai sus de suma asta nu cumpar, poa sa fie si uns cu gem de trandafiri.

Totusi acolo e un LGA2066 cu 10 cores in link-ul tau, om vedea cit o costa 9900K...
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