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Old 08-10-2012, 14:08   #1
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Am si eu urmatoarea problema :

Intel 2600k
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SSD intel 330 180gb
gigabyte GTX 660

Vreau sa fac OC la sistem pana la 4200. Nici o problema , porneste in 4200 , ajung in windows, pornesc un prime95, dupa un minut trece in 3400 iar apoi oscileaza intre valorile 3400 si 4200, dar in general ramane pe 3400. Ma face cu nervii !

Am incercat toate optiunile din bios, am facut disable la termal throttling (oricum mai mult de 71 de grade nu a prins in Prime pana sa treaca in 3400 la loc).

spread spectrum disabled
speedstep : disabled
turbo boost : disabled
intenal PLL overvoltage auto
primary plane current limit 300
secondary plane current limit 300

cpu voltage : offset +0.05V
CPU thermal throttling disabled


La CPU voltage e dubioasa treaba. Daca il pun in +0.050, merge aproape in 1.4 V in Prime95. L-am pus in -.025 si sta in 1.328V in load 80% acum. Aveti vreo sugestie ? Imi vine sa iau placa si sa o returnez si imi iau un P67 mai vechi si mai stabil....
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Old 08-10-2012, 14:15   #2
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Turbo boost enabled,internal pll enabled,primary plane si secondary le pui maxim,pe langa current limit mai trebuie sa umbli si la power limit...
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Load Optimized CPU OC Setting: Disabled

CPU Ratio: All Core
All Core: 42
Host Clock Override (BCLK): 100.0
Spread Spectrum: Disabled
Intel SpeedStep Technology: disable
Intel Turbo Boost Technology: disabled
Internal PPL Overvoltage: Enabled
Primary Plane Current Limit: 500
Secondary Plane Current Limit: 500
GT OverClocking Support: Disabled


DRAM Frequency: DDR3-1333

CPU Voltage Offset: Offset Mode
Offset Voltage: +0.005V -------- am incercat pana la +0.060V, tot degeaba
CPU Load-Line Calibration: 100%
IGPU Voltage Offset: Auto
IGPU Load-Line Calibration: Auto
DRAM Voltage: Auto
VTT Voltage: Auto
PCH Voltage: Auto
CPU PLL Voltage: Auto
VCCSA Voltage: Auto

Intel Hyper Threading Technology: Enabled
Active Processor Cores: All
Enhanced Halt State (C1E): Enabled
CPU C3 State Support: Disabled
CPU C6 State Support: Disabled
Package C State Support: Disabled
CPU Thermal Throttling: Disabled
No-Execute Memory Protection: Enabled
Intel Virtualization Technology: Enabled
Hardware Prefetcher: Enabled



Pornesc prim95, ajunge in 65-67 de grade si in maxim de 30 secunde coboara la 3400. Care e de vina ? Placa, procul, sursa ?
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Ai acolo precis LONG DURATION POWER LIMIT pune la 300-350 bine asta + PRIMARY PLANE+ SHORT DURATION POWER LIMIT mai bine le pui toate egale peste 300 in general .
Daca nici asa nu merge da LONG DURATION MANTAINED muta de pe AUTO pune 1s.
Pe P67 PRO3 biosuri initiale cand era pe AUTO facea figuri de la 4.5ghz cadea la 4.2ghz, cand puneam pe 1s nu mai facea. Cu bios de IB nu mai face treaba asta, merge pe AUTO.

De asemanea SPREA SPECTRUM DISABLED si din meniul H/W MONITOR ai jos langa Dehumidifier Function, thermal protection sau cum i spune . Ai e separata de protectia de la procesor settings. E nu stiu daca e procesorul peste 80C sau aerul in carcasa peste nu stiu ce temperatura poate sa-ti reduca frecventa la procesor.


Nu stiu e biosul diferit poti face screenuri usori dai F12 in bios si se salveaza pe stick USB.
Asta daca nu ai si setarile ce ti-am spus eu mai sus.

La CPU voltage nu ai FIXED VOLTAGE, numai OFFSET?
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Old 08-10-2012, 15:30   #5
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Am dat enable la turbo si am campurile alea

Long Duration power limit -- 500 (max)
Short duration power limit -- 500 (max)
Long duration maintained -- 1 s

Spread spectrum e disabled si am facut disable si la thermal protection . Nici o modificare.

Aceeasi problema o are si asta :

http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/4...-problems.html
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C1, C6 alea ce mai is pe acolo?
FIXED voltage ai sa nu ai?
Pana la urma mai incearca si asta vezi ce setari se fac preautomate la 4.2ghz:
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Load Optimized CPU OC Setting - ENABLED la 4.2ghz
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Nu e fixed voltage, doar offset. C-urile sunt disabled toate.Am modificat si in HW monitor si am pus fan-ul pe full on. Tot degeaba. Merge pana in 65 de grade si face downclock.

Edit : am incercat si alea optimizate. La fel fac si ele ...
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Ce bios ai? Mai incerca diferite versiuni de bios sa vezi daca nu cumva te scapa unul de problema. http://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Z77%2...wnload&os=BIOS
Daca nu mail la Asrock si vezi ce spun, apoi ce sa faci schimbi placa.
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Am ultima versiune de BIOS. Le-am trimis mail la aia , am scris si pe un alt forum de suport de al lor, sa vedem ce iese.... mai am 2 zile pana expira alea 10 zile in care pot sa returnez placa, stau in dubii daca sa fac lucrul asta sau nu.

P.S. am vazut ca altii au avut problema asta cu Asrock si se pare ca un senzor de pe placa de baza facea tampenii si raporta chestia asta... deocamdata mi-am instalat ThrottleStop si pare sa fie ok, ii dau un prime mai tarziu sa vad daca merge ok.

P.S.2 : s-a oferit cineva de la Asrock sa imi trimita un nou chip de BIOS , sa vedem daca se tin de cuvant si cum o sa mearga ThrottleStop nu functioneaza, trece in 3400 si cu ala pornit.

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Old 08-10-2012, 23:19   #10
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Stai linistit ca si cu biosul trimis de acel "cineva " o sa ai aceleasi probleme . Si stii de ce ? Ei bine , atunci cand cativa "fraieri ca mine " am cumparat placi de baza de 700- 1100 de lei pentru SB , existau altii mai smecheri care credeau ca pot sa faca aceleasi trucuri cu placi de baza de 300- 400 de lei . Ghinion ! Cel putin in acest caz ghinionul a insemnat un vrm slab, un bios lipsit de facilitati la capitolul voltaje samd . Sper sa va invatati minte si sa intelegeti ca un I7 chiar daca este SB, nu poate sa fie tinut daily la 4-4.5 GHz pe o placa de baza cu Vrm castrat si un bios de 2 lei . Eu sper sa iti rezolvi problema si sa ajungi sa razi de postul meu , dar viata bate filmul, asa ca schimba placa aceea de baza cat mai poti .

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Old 10-10-2012, 08:16   #11
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http://forums.tweaktown.com/asrock/4...roblems-2.html

Ultimul post zice ca Z77 nu prea suporta Sandy Bridge overclockate masiv si se preteaza mai bine pe IvyBridge... Asa este ? :O
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E posibil sa fie valabila chestia asta la placa ta,nu ai un prieten cu un 3570K or smth sa incerci?
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Nu am, dar oricum nu m-ar incalzi cu nimic. Am nevoie de hiperthreading si nu schimb procesorul, mai degraba schimb placa. Am inca un calculator identic cu un MSI P65 GD65 si ala merge brici cu aceleasi setari, eventual imi mai iau una din aia....
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Am returnat placa si am luat un MSI Z77 Mpower.
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