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Old 25-10-2015, 11:46   #1
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Am o solicitare de sistem gaming pana in 1500 ron. din sistemul vechi se pastreaza case-ul (modest dar oki, atx si un hdd wd green 500 gb).
Vazand oferta de pe pcgarage, am sugerat sa creasca bugetul la 2000 ron

http://www.pcgarage.ro/vizualizare-w...paign=wishlist
asadar primeste un ssd de 120 gratis
se mai adauga un dvdrw si inca 4 gb ram.

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Sistemul actual este complet mort ?
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nu,dar ii f vechi, ceva amd athlon, ddr2.. dc?
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Eu recomand asa ceva: http://www.pcgarage.ro/vizualizare-wishlist/1400593/ ... Total cos: 1.885,11 RON

+ una din aceste variante de memorii:
http://www.altex.ro/memorie-desktop-...3-1866mhz-cl10
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http://www.altex.ro/memorie-desktop-...r3-1600mhz-cl9

Iese putin peste 2000 de lei, dar are un sistem decent de gaming. Daca e prea mult, poate lua doar 4GB RAM si ulterior inca 4GB. Daca are buget, poate alege o placa de baza mai buna.
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Ai nevoie de i5 pentru sistem de gaming. I3 e prea slab. Mai bine iei un i5 2nd hand decat i3 nou.
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Old 25-10-2015, 15:21   #6
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nu se poate depasi bugetul, si asa a fost 1500 initial
si eu voiam i5..
le: nu-i asa mare dif in joace... http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1197?vs=1368

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Tu-mi zici din citite, eu iti zic din verificate ca multe multiplayere nu merg bine cu i3. Nu poti tine 60 fps, chiar daca in single merge. Plus ca tu ai ales in bench si versiunea S al lui i5, care e mai slaba decat i5-ul normal.
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Old 25-10-2015, 15:31   #8
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2.9-3.6 mai slaba, poate.. insesizabil
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1197?vs=1198 tot nu vad o dif enorma.. nu mint aia asa rau
nu se poate sh, si nici cu bani in plus.. ma gandesc cum sa fac pt acel 960.. si asa ii greu
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Se poate mai bine si cu GTX 960 cu o alta combinatie.
Pe FM2+ cu Athlon X4 860K, varianta lui 7850K fara IGP.
Comparatie cu i3 4360 aici nu foarte departe ca performanta.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1197?vs=1200
Si asa iese in 1920lei cu GTX 960.
http://www.pcgarage.ro/vizualizare-wishlist/1400763/
Placa de baza se poate mai ieftina, am, pus una mai decenta ca alea mai ieftine trebuie analizate mai in detaliu ce model trebuie ales. Cu o placa de baza la 250lei se poate iesii in 1870lei.
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sunt curios daca poate 860k sa duca 960?
ms, ii o varianta
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Old 25-10-2015, 18:05   #11
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Nuuuuu. NUuuu. Nu-i pune AMD. Decat AMD-ul ala, mai bine i3 in ideea in care poate pune i5 in socketul de i3 intr-un viitor.
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Cu tot respectul @mbc, dar nu prea se impaca "i5" cu "pc gaming buget"!

Si eu as alege un i5+MB SH + GF 960, dar nu toti pot baga mana mai "adanc" in buzunar sau nevoile/pretentiile la capitolul gaming sunt mai modeste.
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Da, cateodata pasiunea pune stapanire pe mine si ratiunea (deci si bugetul in cazul de fata) pica pe locul 2.

Oricum, cred ca daca e 100% necesar nou, iesi mai bine cu intel in loc de AMD pe termen indelungat. Eu am luat un AMD FM2 pentru un client care, dupa ce am cumparat o mare parte din componente s-a razgandit si a vrut ceva mai tare si eu am ramas cu AMD-ul pe stoc. E pur si simplu praf. Are TDP mare, se incalzeste mult si nu ai cum sa faci upgrade pe viitor decat la ceva aproximativ la fel de bun.

Deci, recomandarea mea ramane sa se cumpere Intel.
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Am intrebat ce sistem are pentru ca cel mai simplu este sa upgradezi doar placa video la una cat mai nervoasa (de preferat GTX 970) si cu un pic de strech pentru un SSD de 120 GB pentru boot si ceva mai mult ram. (daca e DDR2 e super ieftin sa completeze macar pana la 8 GB).

In mod sigur se va putea juca cam orice pentru viitoarul an la detalii medii.

In caz ca nu suporta placa de baza, recomand sa se mearga pe:

1.G32xx - pentru ca este overclockabil si in jocuri ... aproape ca nu conteaza CPU-ul (la oferta de la garaj) - ~ 260-300
2. O placa de baza noua cu 1150 (e la oferta de la garaj) - ~ 250-300
3. Un GTX 950 sau 960 de la garaj (la oferta) - ~ 750-1000 (chiar 960-ul cu 4 GB ram pentru un pic sub 1000 RON)
4. ssd - 0 lei(astea aduc SSD-ul gratis )
5.2x4 GB - DDR3 1333 sau 1600 in functie de cat de sadic vrei sa faci economii) ~ 180-200
------------------------------------------ cam aici se termina bugetul.
6. (posibil optional) si singurul stress este sursa care trebuie sa fie cat de cat buna (macar un 450-500W de proasta calitate care e cam 200-250Ron) sau salvaged de pe vechiul sistem, daca e posibil.

Bafta la cumparaturi

PS:
- din ce am calculat eu cu o sursa enermax 500w si GTX 950 - iese 1880 RON ...
- pentru doar 150 RON in plus (adica vreo 2000) ar intra GTX-ul 960 cu 4 GB - eu zic ca nu se poate mai bine de atat.

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G3258 stock se bate cu AMD X4 860k... i3-ul are si frecventa marisoara - 3.7Ghz si 4 fire de executie...
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Absolut corect, insa decat AMD mai bine Intel (din multe puncte de vedere) si intre un G32xx si un i3 ... vorbim de un pret x2 pentru o performanta ... poate 10-20 %, pe care o poti obtine din placa video.
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Nu e ceva general valabil! Mie FX8300 mi-a lasat o impresie foarte buna! Este cu 5-10% mai slab in jocuri decat i5, dar costa cam' jumate... 580-600 vs 900-1000 lei.

Construiesc un sistem de gaming pentru un amic care arata cam asa:

AMD FX8300
AsRock Fatality 970 Performance
Kingston 2x4GB RAM 1866 CL10
Zalman R1
290X Gigabyte Windforce 3x (Asic 79.2% daca nu gresesc)
...unele noi, altele cu garantie pentru inca o perioada buna de timp!

Urmeaza sa ia PSU, HDD, SSD si Cooler CPU.

Pentru o persoana care vroia initial un laptop pentru gaming in 2500 de lei... eu zic ca e o schimbare majora!
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Cam la astea 3 configuratii m-am gandit eu:

G + MB + 960 (4GB) / 950 / 370 + SSD + 8 GB ram + sursa = 2030 / 1886 / 1791
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H81 ieftin ofera cam tot ce vrei la bugetul asta. ceva de 200 lei. Nu are rost placa de 350 lei la buget mic.
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Uite o recomandare :
Placa de baza asrock 1150
i5
8 gb de ram
r7 265 este acelasi lucru cu r7 370
sursa corsair de 450w
Tu decizi caca merita sa cumperi de la PG sa primesti ssd-ul .
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