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Old 18-11-2018, 14:15   #181
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Ce MB AsRock ai mai exact?
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Old 18-11-2018, 14:40   #182
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Bănuiesc că z370 pro4.
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Old 18-11-2018, 16:02   #183
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Man, inainte sa-l vinzi, fa si tu un test te rog.

CPU la 5000MHz all cores (voltaj nu conteaza, cit sa fie stabil citeva loopuri de IBT), cache la x45 si apoi la x47, si pune print sa vedem cit scoate in Intel Burn Test, 8086K scotea mult mai bine la Gflops...

Sint curios daca 9900K scoate mai prost doar la mine sau si la tine.

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Old 18-11-2018, 16:21   #184
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Nu stiu ce sa zic legat de IBT.
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Old 18-11-2018, 16:24   #185
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E un test irelevant, nu vad de ce ii dati atita importanta.
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Old 18-11-2018, 16:34   #186
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Da disable la HT daca vrei sa vezi GFlops mai mare.

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Old 18-11-2018, 16:55   #187
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Man, uite aici 9900K la 5000MHz cu HT



Iar aici 8086K cu absolut aceleasi setari si aceeasi frecventa, 5000MHz:



Diferenta e de la cer la pamint...
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Old 18-11-2018, 17:14   #188
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Pai scot mai mult de atat si eu cu 6600k . Ceva e putred pe acolo...
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Old 18-11-2018, 17:36   #189
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Man, uite aici 9900K la 5000MHz cu HT



Iar aici 8086K cu absolut aceleasi setari si aceeasi frecventa, 5000MHz:



Diferenta e de la cer la pamint...
Si e relevant pentru .... ?
Incearca sa dai disable la HT si la 4 cores, sa vezi atunci, insa iarasi, te incanta cum anume ?
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Old 18-11-2018, 18:18   #190
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Nu e vorba de incintat aici, fiind aceeasi arhitectura (aproape), setarile si frecventle identice, Gflpos trebuiau sa fie cel putin egale, sau poate 9900K sa fie mai bun...
O sa incerc diseara cind ajung acasa sa dau disable la 2 cores+HT aferent, sa vad citi Gflops scoate, ar trebui sa fie egal cu 8086K, ca in print de mai sus.
Este vorba de egalitatea intre CPU-uri nu neaparat de cifre, desi diferenta este prea mare...
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Foarte interesant ca ai min frames mai mic decit cu 8086k la aceleasi frecvente si setari...

Incearca sa dai disable la 2 cores+HT aferent si vezi ce e cu min frames.
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Xeon+X58 vs 9900K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMbUXKsMKKA
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@kvarq, nu stiu la ce este relevant Intel Burn test dar scoti ~ la fel cu un i7 [email protected] deci ceva nu-i in regula la setup.


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Old 18-11-2018, 21:09   #194
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Folositi si voi asta ...

https://www.techpowerup.com/download/linpack-xtreme/

Option : 2,5,1,Y,N,N

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Old 18-11-2018, 22:43   #195
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Bănuiesc că z370 pro4.
Da, exact.
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Old 19-11-2018, 00:04   #196
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Cu 8 core, 8 thread trebuie sa fie undeva intre 520 si 540. Se foloseste AVX.

Option : 2,5,1,N,8,N,N

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Old 19-11-2018, 01:34   #198
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@kvarq nu mai stresa procesorul, este ok. 520-540 se obtine cu 5Ghz si AVX -2 sau 0. Nu merita incalzit procesorul. Eu zic ca este ok si nu cred ca 8086 e mai bun

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Old 19-11-2018, 21:50   #199
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Salutare! Nu am rezistat tentatiei si mi-am luat si eu un 9900k, trecand de la Ryzen 1700x si va impartasesc cateva experiente (il am de o saptamana):

Sistemul este compus din:

-Carcasa Sharkoon DG7000-G Red
-Sursa FSP 650W
-Placa de baza Gigabyte Z390 Gaming X
-Procesor Intel i9 9900k
-Racire Deepcool Assassin II + Arctic Mx-4
-Memorie Corsair Vengeance 2x8Gb ddr4 3200mhz (cl 16-18-18-36)
-Ssd: Nvme Intel 600p 512gb + Samsung 850 Evo 256gb
-Placa video Asus Rog Strix Gtx 1070 Oc, urmeaza un 3080 sau 3080ti in 2019, am dat skip la seria 2000
-Sunet Asus Xonar DX + Yamaha Ax-550 amp + 2 boxe Magnat Monitor Supreme 2002
-Monitor LG 32MP58HQ-P, urmeaza un 1440p, tot de 32 de inch, in 2019, acum nu mai am bani de dat pe componente

La mine supravolta placa de baza, pana pe la 1.35-1.37v (cu voltajul pe auto). Asta ar fi singura problema a placii pe care am putut s-o observ pana acum (setarea proasta a voltajului auto in bios), in rest placa mi se pare excelenta, este foarte rece (vrm-urile nu depasesc 60 de grade in full load si este si foarte stabila). Intr-adevar, cu voltaj setat pe auto in bios, temperaturile sareau de 80 de grade in Cinebench si de 85 in Aida 64, in jocuri atingand maxim 64 de grade package-ul si 58 core-urile. Prin urmare, am scazut voltajul in bios, l-am pus la 1.23v (Cpu-z citeste in load intre 1.112-1.116v). Nu stiu daca e voltajul chiar asa de mic in load, dar nici nu cred ca depaseste 1.23v. Astea fiind spuse, temperatura acum este maxim 73 de grade in Aida 64 (doar cpu-package, core-urile stau la 65-68) iar in jocuri core-urile acum trec foarte greu de 55, cpu sta pe la 46 de grade si cpu-package maxim 58-60. Toate astea fara limitare la placa, dar cu mce off, in peste 10 run-uri de Cinebench consecutive am acelasi rezultat (intre 2060 si 2090cb). Eu zic ca este foarte bine.

Din punct de vedere al performantei, pot sa spun ca se vad diferente. Iar in jocurile care ma intereseaza pe mine in mod special, se vad diferente foarte mari. De exemplu, in World War 3, cu totul pe ultra la 1080p, aveam fps drop pana la 45, cu 9900k neoverclockat, nu am vazut mai putin de 88 fps. Deci aproape dublu fps-ul minim, fara dropuri si fara stutter... In BF4 de asemenea, framerate-ul mediu a crescut cu 20-30 de fps, la fel si cel minim, iar in Black Desert Online parca nu mai incarca nimic sistemul cand intru in orase, merge ca si cum as fi afara (pe Ryzen mai sughita in orase). Pot sa spun ca sunt foarte multumit de sistem, in afara de pretul pe care a trebuit sa-l platesc pentru 9900k. Daca ar fi fost disponibil in magazine la banii ceruti pe un 1800x imediat dupa lansare, ar fi fost mai "politically correct" din partea Intel, mai ales fata de fanii din categoria careia "cica" i se adreseaza direct acest procesor: cea a gamerilor. Dar, a fost un compromis pe care am fost dispus sa il fac.

p.s. Atasez si cateva poze cu sistemul si va urez o seara frumoasa!
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Old 02-12-2018, 18:42   #200
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5Ghz cu 4.7AVX, 1.3vcore



5Ghz 1.3vcore no AVX



La 1.280vcore e stabil in 4 jocuri la 5.0Ghz

L.E. Dupa inca cateva teste am lasat sistemul la 5Ghz no AVX offset la 1.290V stabil in Cinebench, OCCT si Prime95 no AVX.

Testul Prime95 cu AVX este total irelevant din punctul meu de vedere, nu se regaseste in activitatea zilnica a 99% din useri.

In aceste conditii sistemul functioneaza stabil, temperaturile sunt mai mult decat decente, este silentios. Sunt multumit de componentele EK, mai putin de fanuri dar se vor rezolva si alea. Racirea este foarte ok, radiatorul de 420x45mm este arhisuficient pentru 9900K si chiar mai mult.
La placa de baza inca nu ma pronunt, biosul este curios dar la final cele cateva setari sunt ok si odata puse in favorite devine totul easy. S-ar putea sa aiba ceva coil noise la VRM, mai studiez inca situatia.
Carcasa CM C700P imi place, e incapatoare, imi ofera tot ce mi-am dorit, silentioasa si rece in configuratia actuala.
Fanurile Corsair LLC sunt ok, silentioase chiar si la turatie mai mare, partea RGB e interesanta

Overall sunt foarte multumit de sistem, performante, silentiozitate si look.

Pe masura ce mai descopar cate ceva va tin la curent.

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