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Old 02-10-2018, 22:19   #6521
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Old 03-10-2018, 08:30   #6522
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Nu viseaza, o sa vina Ryzen2 la anu' pe 7 nm, cu frecvente de 4,5GHz probabil, in Q1 2019 - daca TSMC poate sa le produca in cantitati suficient de mari.
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Old 04-10-2018, 11:55   #6523
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AMD To Introduce World’s First, 7nm, High-Performance CPUs and GPUs at CES 2019 – Aimed To Catapult Computing and Gaming Technologies Forward

https://wccftech.com/amd-intros-7nm-cpus-gpus-ces-2019/

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Old 06-10-2018, 23:19   #6524
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AMD Ryzen Threadripper 2970WX 24 Core and Ryzen Threadripper 2920X 12 Core HEDT Processors Launching on 29th October
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Old 11-10-2018, 22:09   #6525
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Nu viseaza, o sa vina Ryzen2 la anu' pe 7 nm, cu frecvente de 4,5GHz probabil, in Q1 2019 - daca TSMC poate sa le produca in cantitati suficient de mari.
Ala ar fi Ryzen3, bazat pe arhitectura Zen 2
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Old 15-10-2018, 21:55   #6526
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Nope, ala este ryzen2 sau ryzen 3000 pe 7 nm (ryzen+ este ryzen 2000 pe 12 nm, si ryzen este pe 14 nm).
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Old 15-10-2018, 22:01   #6527
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Nope, ala este ryzen2 sau ryzen 3000 pe 7 nm (ryzen+ este ryzen 2000 pe 12 nm, si ryzen este pe 14 nm).
Te-ai confuzat ))))

procesor Ryzen 1 - arhitectura Zen 14nm
procesor Ryzen 2 - arhitectura Zen+ 12nm
procesor Ryzen 3 - arhitectura Zen2 7nm

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Old 15-10-2018, 22:29   #6528
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Nu, seria 2xxx e Ryzen+, si a fost un refresh rapid pentru o arhitectura noua.

Zen 2, cum scrie chiar in poza pusa de tine, va fi pe 7nm .

Ca le-au luat-o seriile produselor inainte de-a-mpulea e alta treaba, dar treaba e ordonata asa: Ryzen 1 / Ryzen+ / Ryzen 2 (7nm).
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Old 15-10-2018, 22:47   #6529
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Bogdaneeeee ... esti confuz!!!

Recitesti maine ce ai scris. Nu exista Ryzen +.

P.S. Eu nu am baut decat 1 bere la ora asta. ))))))))))))
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Bine, o luam ca-n roadmap. Zen / Zen+ / Zen2.
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FMA4 on Zen: Forgotten Instruction set, but not yet gone
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Old 28-10-2018, 10:41   #6532
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Am rasfoit azi putin forumurile AMD. Se pare ca exista ceva probleme cu memoriile mai ales daca se vrea 3200Mhz, apoi, cu 4 module de ram se pare ca nu prea e ok sau, frecventa e mica.
De asemenea ceva legat de voltage offset, voltage spikes si probleme la overclock cu Pstates.
Se stie ca AMD scaleaza in performanta odata cu frecvente si latente scazute la memorii, esti nevoit sa folosesti memorii cu B-die, daca vrei 32Gb ram apar problemele...
La prima vedere totul este mai simplu pe Intel.. repet, e prima impresie.

Intentionez sa mai fac un sistem si pe 2700X + X470 si in momentul asta nu sunt foarte incantat.

Ma stresez degeaba ?
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Ca fapt divers, fostul meu 1700 functiona ok cu [email protected] (asus ch6)
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Old 28-10-2018, 10:51   #6534
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Pe overclockers este un thread de aproape 4000 pagini la CH6E, peste tot se mentioneaza problema cu ramii, mai ales daca nu e B-die sau cu 4 module. Cu 2 module de 16 e kinky sa ajungi la 3200Mhz.
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Intentionez sa mai fac un sistem si pe 2700X + X470 si in momentul asta nu sunt foarte incantat.

Ma stresez degeaba ?
Da, te stresezi degeaba.

Pas 1: alegi placa de baza cu X470 (cum mergi pe 2700X poti alege si producatorul MSI - astia nu stiu de V core offset pe AM4)
Pas 2: te uiti in QVL-ul de memorii al modelului de placa de baza ales si alegi un set de memorii de acolo pe care ei il declara ca merg la 3200Mhz (mai nou exista si kit-uri cu Micron care merg la 3200Mhz in QVL). Alegi ce iti convine ca marime, frecventa si latente (CAS 14 (doar B-die) sau CAS 16 - aici ai si Micron)
Pas 3: cauti memoriile pe piata din RO in functie de disponibilitate si pret.
Pas 4: daca nu iti convine ce gasesti la pasul 3 revii la pas-ul 1.

In maxim 3 iteratii si 30 min. gasesti ce iti trebuie.

Apoi dai comanda de 2700X si ce iti mai trebuie pentru sistem.

Dupa ce asamblezi sistemul primul pas e update de BIOS la ultima versiune. Apoi: enjoy!
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Old 28-10-2018, 11:02   #6536
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Multumesc.

De ce MSI ? Intotdeauna am avut placi Asus. Sunt probleme pe Asus Crosshair 7 ? Intreb pentru un prieten
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Old 28-10-2018, 11:06   #6537
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Nu am zis sa alegi MSI, am zis ca poti sa alegi SI MSI alaturi de Asus, Gigabyte si ASRock.

Daca vrei sa faci overclock pe MSI pe AM4 (indiferent de B350, X370, B450 sau X470) trebuie sa folosesti voltaj si frecventa fixe (nu scad nici una nici alta in idle).

La restul de producatori Asus, Gigabyte si ASRock treaba asta functioneaza cu offset de V core.

Dar pentru ca e 2700x unde nu merita overclock-ul atunci poti alege si MSI cu tot cu lipsa lor de offset pe V core.
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Old 28-10-2018, 11:09   #6538
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G.SKILL F4-3200C16D-16GFX 2 * 8GB SS 16-16-16-36 1.35V ●
G.SKILL F4-3200C16D-16GFXR 2 * 8GB SS 16-16-16-36 1.35V ●
G.SKILL F4-3200C16D-16GTZR 2 * 8GB SS 16-18-18-38 1.35V ●
G.SKILL F4-3200C14D-16GTZR 2 * 8GB SS 14-14-14-34 1.35V ●
Hyper X HX432C18FBK2/16 2 * 8GB SS 16-16-16-36 1.35V ●

Fara suport pe 4 dimmuri, la 3200 esti limitat la 16Gb. QVL Asus CH7H.
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Old 28-10-2018, 11:34   #6539
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Pe ASRock X470 Taichi Ultimate pare sa ai multe variante de 3200Mhz cu 4 dimm-uri de 8GB.

Ba chiar si 3333Mhz cu 4 dimm-uri Corsair CMW32GX4M4C3333C16 sau CMK32GX4M4B3333C16 ver:4.31

Pe forum la ASRock isi pun problema de 64GB sa mearga la 3200Mhz : link
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Si MSI are mai multe optiuni cu ram pe cele 4 sloturi cf QVL. Treaba asta cu QVL este atat de relativa... la final totul depinde de IMC de la proc, unele mai bune, altele mai de kko

In fine, daca o sa fie nevoie o sa iau 4 module cu B-die si o sa vedem.
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