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Old 07-06-2018, 16:34   #6321
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au jucarii pe 7nm
Unde unde?
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Old 07-06-2018, 16:46   #6322
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probabil @fubu crede ca au : dar au doar in prezentari si ppt-uri momentan.
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Old 07-06-2018, 17:53   #6323
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Unde unde?
Cred ca la asta se refera

https://www.theverge.com/2018/6/6/17...-computex-2018
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Old 07-06-2018, 18:21   #6324
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Ma refeream ca AMD au deja GPU pe 7nm si lucreaza la Epyc 2 pe aceeasi litografie.

Intel a fost luat prin surprindere si ar fi bine sa profite din plin de asta, prin lansari la timp a produselor si cu stocuri decente.

https://www.techpowerup.com/244909/a...-zen2-for-epyc
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Old 07-06-2018, 20:45   #6325
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da au un prototip nimic concret ; au arata o bucata de silicon , pana o sa fie gata mai dureaza ; cum ziceam globalfoundries din 2016 7nm ( pilot IBM chiar ) deci ei pot trage cam orice la 7nm dar nu sunt mainstream pt ca rata de success e super mica , procesul nu e perfectionat .

https://www.anandtech.com/show/10631...t-through-2020

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Old 07-06-2018, 20:48   #6326
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Cred ca au constatat ca mai bine rafineaza procesul pe 7nm si investesc direct in asta in loc sa treaca gradual si prin 10nm inainte, lucru care ar fi mancat bani. Riscant, dar par increzatori ca o sa le cam iasa. Iar daca le iese... hehe, de la 12nm la 7nm e diferenta mare.

Chix imi vine greu sa cred ca vor da tinand cont de afirmatia de mai jos, in cel mai rau caz imho vom vedea un delay de cateva luni.

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The company has the 7 nm silicon ready in its labs, and will begin sampling within the second half of 2018. The first products could launch in 2019, after validations
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Old 07-06-2018, 20:57   #6327
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nici eu nu cred ca o sa avem 7nm in 2018 dar ca marketing merge super bine pt AMD. ; au un prototip deci se lucreaza ,
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Old 07-06-2018, 21:03   #6328
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2018 cu siguranta nu. Ce e de 7nm "could launch in 2019", asta inseamna cu o foarte mare larghete Q3 2019 - Q2 2020. Ma indoiesc ca vedem 7nm inainte de Aug-Sept 2019 in cel mai bun caz.
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Bai ... au spus ca deja au batchuri functionale . Terminati cu tampeniile . Asta inseamna ca procesul GloFo in 2019 va fi matur deja.
2019 va fi intrarea in piata, dar litografiere in sine se face cu mult inainte, rebuturile devin Ryzen3 , Ryzen5 samd. Varfurile , golden silicon vor fi Blackedition sau x800x
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Old 08-06-2018, 08:41   #6330
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Sunt sceptic.
AMD a dat-o de gard de fiecare data cand s-au laudat
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Hygon Dhyana: Chinese x86 Server CPUs Based On AMD Zen
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Old 10-06-2018, 00:35   #6332
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wow bine ca nu le zic la CPU-urile alea chinezesti unicorni "Onboarding Centaur x86 CPUs"
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Old 10-06-2018, 01:12   #6333
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Te miri degeaba, cpu-ul trebuie sa prinda la piata chineza, care are filozofia ei aparte
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La AMD o generatie a fost jm , cealalta fail, una jm, cealalta fail si tot asa.
Apoi Intel s-a inspirat cu tick-tock, dar aia nu prea au avut fail, sau au marketizat de asa natura ca nu s-a mai prins nimeni (Broadwell)
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Old 10-06-2018, 11:35   #6335
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AMD de cand a aparut a facut clone de Intel pana la un punct cand a prins un designer de arhitectura Jim Keller , el a facut ( nu singur evident ) Athlon K7 si o parte din K8 , procesoare ce au impins AMD ca si concurent Intel nu doar producator de replici , Keller e in sptele arhitecturii zen ; din pacate ( pentru AMD ) Keller e la intel acum lucreaza la noile cpu-uri.

Ca numar de arhitecturi de cpu Intel nu a avut mai mult de 3 in untimii 20 de ani dar a stiut sa le scaleze si marketeze bine ( ex elocvent este arhitectura sandy B factuta de Intel Islael in 2009 ce dainuieste si astazi in magnificele procesoare coffee lake , dupa aproape 9 ani , evident ca exista imbunatatiri vs original dar nu sunt majore, ele fiind mai mult de natura putere vs consum si instructiuni aduse la zi, desi si aici au ceva gauri )

Intel are bunul obicei sa cumpere oamenii cheie din companiile concurente .

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Intel 28-core fantasy vs. AMD 32-core reality

https://www.techspot.com/news/75009-...d-32-core.html
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Old 18-06-2018, 22:02   #6338
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AMD Offers Threadripper 1950X in exchange of i7-8086K [in limited numbers]

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Our competitor recently kicked off a sweepstakes to celebrate the first 40 years of the x86 processor by giving away 8,086 limited edition processors.

We appreciate the advancements they’ve helped drive with the x86 architecture over the last four decades. But, we’re ready to take it from here. That’s why we’re giving 40 performance-hungry enthusiasts in the U.S. an opportunity to celebrate the next 40 years of high-performance computing by trading in their commemorative processor prize for our CPU that enables you to work, play and create with heavy metal.

The first 40 U.S.-based winners of the Intel® 8th Gen Core i7-8086k Limited Edition Sweepstakes (which opened on June 7, 2018 and closed on June 8, 2018) (“Competitor Sweepstakes”) to complete certain steps will be offered the opportunity to exchange their new, in-box prize processor for a flagship 16-core AMD Ryzen™ Threadripper™ 1950X processor built for the gamers and creators who need a processor that can do it all. Those steps will be communicated on this webpage on June 25 at 1:00:00 PM EDT. Check back on June 25 at 1:00:00 PM EDT for complete details on how to participate.
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In vreo 2 saptamani e posibil sa ajung cu serviciul in SUA, ma gandesc sa cumpar un intel i7 8086 numai ca sa fac schimbul
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