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Old 03-02-2019, 20:52   #101
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Nu trebuie sa umbli la voltaje. Doar modificata limitarea de 95W.
Scorul ar trebui sa fie cam asa:
http://www.lab501.ro/procesoare-chip...ore-i9-9900k/8
Daca nu esti pe acolo (asta dupa ce verifica faza cu TDP-ul) ti-ar cam trebui ceva dual-channel probabil.

PS: probabil ca o sa vezi si ceva "imbunatatiri" la temperaturi


LE: ca sa intelegi mai bine cum e treaba cu punctele si limitarea asta:
http://static.techspot.com/articles-.../Cinebench.png

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Old 03-02-2019, 20:55   #102
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Sunt sanse mari sa ai probleme cu sursa.
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Old 03-02-2019, 20:58   #103
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Procesorul e stock sau OC 5GHz all cores?
Daca da, cu ce voltaj?
Stabil cinebench?
Baga un cinebench si un core temp ultima versiune .
Topicul a inceput cu" vreau un 9900K sa il tin STOC"

Acum deja ajungem la overclock and shit

Daca ii scoateti limitarile de power management, cu acel cooler va ajunge la 100grade instant, apoi o sa faceti gratare pe VRM-ul placii de baza.

9900K pe aer, 5Ghz all cores is a NO GO, asa ca pierdeti timpul.
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Old 03-02-2019, 21:01   #104
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Eu nu as mai tine placa aia video o secunda in PC, si-a trait traiul si mincat malaiul.

Pe bune spus, te ineci ca tiganul la mal...
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Old 03-02-2019, 21:08   #105
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Omul a zis ca nu face OC deocamdata. I-am zis sa scoata limitarea la consum (nu sa umble la frecvente, voltaje etc etc)ca sa se duca automat in 4,7Ghz, nu sa faca OC la 5ghz...
Sursa nu ar trebui sa ii faca probleme fara OC :
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Old 03-02-2019, 21:17   #106
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Nu am buget pt. placa video momentan si nici nu sunt gamer de matase ..deci nici n-ar prea merita investitia sa zic asa.
Totusi as dori sa stiu daca e vreo problema cu ea.. cred ca o voi testa pe vechea configuratie in celalalt sistem (4770+8GbRam+GTX660 pe o sursa arctic cooling 550) - credeti ca risc ceva?
Limitarea de consum by default ce rol are pt cei care nu fac alt gen de setari (de oc)? de protectie sau?

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Old 03-02-2019, 21:37   #107
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=))))))
Dă-i retur la procesor și ia un 8400, rx 580 și o sursa noua.
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Old 03-02-2019, 21:43   #108
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Una dintre ele este vinovata pentru shutdown during load.

La cum ai povestit simptomele, sursa pare cea cu probleme si apoi placa video (opinia mea).

Testeaza placa video cu sursa cealalta pe sistemul anterior, da-i un furmark la placa video cu setari de antialias 8X la rezolutie 1080P sau mai sus.

Daca placa video trece 10-15 minute de test furmark, fara sa se blocheze testul, fara artefacte, si nu depaseste 75-80 grade, este ok.

Daca temperatura este mai mare, posibil pasta termica uscata, desi EVGA (acum am vazut ca este o EVGA), nu se [email protected] pe ei sa puna chit in loc de pasta termica.

Per final, daca placa video trece testul cu brio, sursa nu poate sa duca sistemul cum trebuie si asta e.

Iti recomand ceva single rail de 750W sau mai mare, insa nu peste 850W, este waste of money.

Eu am avut in ultimii ani numai surse Corsair, TX650, TX750 si TX850.

Impecabile chiar daca unele au avut si peste 8 ani vechime (TX650 cumparata exact la lansare).

Incep sa inclin spre 70% sursa vs 30% placa video, ca vinovata.
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Multumesc DjLeco , extrem de concis
Ma bate gandul ca in cazul in care merge dincolo, sa vin cu sursa aia aici..ar fi o mare tiganie ?
@kruder - nu (mai) pun placa video amd in sistem nici sa ma pui sa dorm sub tramvai.
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Poti incerca si sursa mai slaba aia pe sistemul cu 9900K, probabil va functiona.

Dar intii asigura-te ca placa video e ok, testeaza cum am scris mai sus.
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Ce au placile AMD ?
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Ce au placile AMD ?
250W TDP la performanta de GTX 1060
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Old 03-02-2019, 22:52   #113
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Stock da, din fericire AMD-urile se pot underclock-a destul de mult. Anyway, ca arhitectura sunt mai slabe decat nVidia, insa diferenta e mult mai mica decat crede lumea, atat timp cat esti power user si stii sa scoti untul din fiecare.
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250W TDP la performanta de GTX 1060 6GB
+2 lei pe luna
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cred ca se referea la temperaturi / caldura, nu neaparat la consum
ultimul meu amd, un r9 280x de la sapphire, facea ca dracu in jocuri. Temperaturi mari -> cooler 100%.
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280x are din nastere tdp oficial de 250w. Cam trebuie racire la asa ceva mai ales cu ce oc o fi avand din fabrica. Si din moment ce marimea radiatorului e cam limitata fizic ca trebuie sa incapa in carcasele cumparatorilor racirea vine de unde se poate umbla: turatia ventilatoarelor.
Uite eu am acum in PC un RX580. E la nivel de 1060 6gb(probabil in 7 din 10 jocui o si bate) si nu sta turata la 100% nici in Furmark. Sapphire Nitro, power limit default adica 175w. max 75grade, setari ventilatoare default.
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Intr-adevar, ma refeream la temperatura degajata de consumul mai mare si o placa cu TDP mai mare va necesita si o sursa mai potenta automat. Mie imi place sa fie silent si rece componentele sistemului, nu ma intereseaza cei 2 lei / luna.

Eu m-am lecuit de AMD de cand aveam un Radeon 6970 cu racirea turbina care facea un zgomot infernal si statea pe la 80-90 de grade Celsius.

I-am recomandat unui prieten un RX 580 MSI Armor si sta la 75-80 de grade, iar fanurile placii se aud peste cele ale carcasei desi are 6 fanuri instalate pe ea si airflow suficient. Aceasi racire pe un GTX 1060 6GB o tine la 70 grade si fanurile nu se aud.
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Asta nu inseamna ca nu sunt implementari demne de luat in seama la AMD. Am o 570 Nitro si in idle am 3xC, iar in full load sta sub 70C si sub 1000rpm in Grid 2, dupa 30 min joaca.
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Postarea de mai sus a fost scrisa acum vreo saptamana pe un laptop pe care nu l-am mai deschis, acum l-am deschis si a postat... probabil nu mai e relevanta
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