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Old 16-01-2017, 13:07   #1
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Va salut stimati colegi,

Sunt pus in situatia de a cumpara un PC unei cunostinte mai in varsta si apelez la sfatul vostru.

Cerintele principale sunt:
- Windows 10 Home
- Monitor de ~27" flicker free, mat
- sistem foarte compact, de preferat cu posibilitatea de montare in spatele monitorului
- folosire in email, browsing, youtube, vizionat filme, deci cam orice in afara de gaming
- SSD mic + HDD mare pentru storage de media

Practic am 2 alternative:
1. caut ceva mini PC/NUC
Daca aveti vre-un model care sa il recomandati, as aprecia. Important e sa mearga si SSD si HDD clasic in el si sa fie cu CPU Skylake. Pe de-o parte as prefera un sistem gata facut, decat sa ma complic eu cu compatibilitati si montaje. Nu stiu ce CPU ar merge, daca un i3U ar fi suficient, sau musai un i5U.

2. Construiesc ceva pe AsRock DeskMini 110
Din cautarile mele pana acum am gasit cateva componente
AsRock Deskmini 110: 624 lei
i3 6100: 577
ADATA 8GB, DDR4, 2400MHz, CL17: 198 lei
Kingston SSDNow 120GB: 237 lei
WD Blue 1TB 2.5": 320 lei
Windows 10 Retail USB: 510 lei

3. Monitor, sa fie flicker free, cu boxe incluse si sa nu fie glossy.
M-am gandit la Benq AMVA+ 27"EW2775ZH: 830 lei

Astept parerile si recomandarile voastre. Bugetul poate sa mearga pana la 4000 lei pentru toata treaba insa cu cat mai ieftin cu atat mai bine.
Multumesc si astept cu interes sfaturile voastre.
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Nu e again Sunt cu totul alte cerinte.
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Daca vrei sa mergi pe mini PC montat in spatele monitorului, recomand MSi Cubi 2.
Aici gasesti un review la el.
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Un sistem interesant ar fi si http://www.pcgarage.ro/sisteme-netto...ma-hd-freedos/

Acer-ul de mai sus + Win 10 + Benq EW2775ZH = aprox 2800 lei.

La Acer ca puncte negative ar fi i3-6100U care nu stiu cum se comporta versus versiunea desktop si faptul ca nu am storage decat cei 128 GB de la SSD. Poate nu e chiar asa rau, ca s-ar putea folosi un hdd extern.
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Dupa alte cautari, ma intreb daca merita efortul pentru

http://www.emag.ro/mini-pc-asus-cu-p...z/pd/D9K2G2BBM

Procesor cu T, SSD si HDD si Windows toate la pachet.

Asus ar fi in jur de 4100 vs un sistem cu i3 pe DeskMini ar fi cam 3300 lei, deci o diff de 800 lei.
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https://www.amazon.de/HP-Pavilion-27...oll+all+in+one
https://www.amazon.de/Lenovo-Desktop...oll+all+in+one
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Am prezentat variantele persoanei in cauza si a ales varianta cu DeskMini+i3-6100+8GB RAM Corsair+250GB Samsung 850 EVO. Sunt si eu curios cum se comporta un astfel de sistem.
Multumesc tuturor pentru sfaturi.
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Mai trebuie sa imi ajunga ramii, restul au ajuns.
Multumesc lui @mascotzel cu ocazia asta, ca daca bine tin minte, el mi-a spus prima data de deskmini.

Deskmini imi place. Abia astept sa vad cum se comporta PC-ul cand e totul instalat.

Din cate vad, pe radiatorul de la coolerul stock sunt 3 benzi, care par a fi pasta. Aia o fi? Pur si simplu pun coolerul asa cum e peste procesor si gata? Sunt ani de cand am montat un procesor...
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Aia e pasta termica, daca e intacta.
Incerci vreun cooler aftermarket sau ramai la cel stock ? ( sunt destul de capabile coolerele stock zic eu pentru procesoare negurmande)
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Pai PC-ul o sa mearga la o matusa a sotiei, asa ca merg pe stock deoarece silentiozitatea nu este o prioritate si oricum pentru office/skype/browsing cred ca o sa stea procesorul destul de relaxat.
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de curiozitate macar, daca il mai ai, ce spatiu are pentru cooler?
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Azi il asamblez si daca imi spui ce sa masor, aduc ruleta Sau poate vrei niste poze?

La ei in manual zice ca: Please note that the DeskMini 110 series chassis has 52mm height limitation for the CPU fan cooler

Insa banuiesc ca sunt limitari si la latime...

Aici vad ca zic ca ar merge si Noctua mai inghesuit asa
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Mi-ar fi placut ca acel USB type C sa fie normal. 3 porturi USB + 1 type C mi se par un pic cam putin, avand in vedere ca mai vine si mouse/tastatura care ocupa un port din start. Mai imprimanta, mai camera WEB, mai stickul de la RDS si deja nu mai sunt porturi pentru toate.

Azi vine RAMul. Am luat windows retail cu usb, asa ca ar trebui sa mearga usor instalarea. Aveam o temere ca defapt acel stick sa tina loc de licenta, adica sa fie cumva serial-ul stickului legat de codul windows, insa am constatat cu bucurie ca am cartonas cu codul de activare.
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Vad ca pe placa de baza am un USB 2.0 Header. Oare este ceva posibilitate de a monta dongle-ul usb de la mouse/tastatura logitech direct acolo? Asa as mai economisi un post extern.
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Se poate, evident, dar Ón unele cazuri carcasa poate acționa ca un fel de izolator/reflector pentru undele radio, și o să Óți meargă mouse-ul Óncoțopenit.
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@mascotzel am montat coolerul stock. Ce informatii ai nevoie?

Mersi @Arise, deocamdata il las asa, apoi vedem daca e nevoie de mai multe usb-uri
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Un lucru care nu imi prea place e faptul ca iesirea audio e in fata si nu are jack in spate. E un pic aiurea sa ai cablul de la boxe in fata carcasei...

Inca astept curierul cu RAMul. Monitorul fiind cu boxe integrate, ma gandesc ca sunetul merge prin HDMI. Nu prea sunt familiar cu modul asta de conectare a monitorului. Deci, banuiesc ca teoretic, monitorul care are jack de casti, ar accepta jack-ul de la boxe?
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pe iesirea de casti din monitor bagi boxele fara probleme.
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Ok, mersi @vibeup. Ma gandeam ca poate e o diferenta intre a pune direct in iesirea din placa de baza sau a pune prin monitor dar e bine de stiut ca nu e.

De asemenea, e bine de luat un monitor cu hub USB daca se ia deskmini
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