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Old 20-09-2017, 12:48   #3881
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Intel 8-core LGA1151 Processor For Z390 Could Be 14 nm Coffee Lake After All
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Old 21-09-2017, 10:40   #3882
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Old 22-09-2017, 20:48   #3883
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O penibilitate marca Intel - Core i3 Dual Core pe X299.
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Old 22-09-2017, 20:57   #3884
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Urmeaza probabil si un Pentium III revamped pe X299. Care desigur va costa $2000, ca e "classic" edition. )
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Old 23-09-2017, 00:46   #3885
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Intel Core i7 8700K Reportedly Reaches 4.8 GHz Easily, 5 GHz+ Requires Delid
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Old 24-09-2017, 17:16   #3886
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Old 24-09-2017, 18:13   #3887
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Tot rahat din ala de pasta termica pun si la astea?

Nu s-au invatat minte?

Atunci sa ne invatam noi minte si sa nu le cumparam, sau daca luam si merg prost, burn it si DOA!
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Old 24-09-2017, 19:23   #3888
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Hai sa ne intelegem, cofee este identic kaby doar ca are doua nuclee in plus. Acelasi IPC,aceeasi pasta, aceeasi marime IHS, etc etc etc. Are un IMC mai bun cu o gramada de divizori noi inutili deocamdata. Ca si overclock o sa fie exact acelasi potential, spre comparatie al meu ES merge chiar mai bine ca si cel mai bun 7700K avut, ceea ce inseamna 5400+ r15 pe aer cu delid. Ma rog, nu e random sample dar am pus mana si pe altele si multe pot peste 5 ghz lejer. Ca si parere personala, as cumpara mai degraba un cofee lake cu 6 nuclee sa il tin la 5 ghz daily fata de un ryzen 8 nuclee cu 4 ghz de daily.
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Old 24-09-2017, 19:50   #3889
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Partea proasta e ca nu merg pe Z270, desi ar fi trebuit sa mearga fara probleme dupa un update de bios la placile de baza.
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@Iubitel dar fara delid cat duce? Nu cred ca poate 5 Ghz fara sa schimbi pasta.

Personal astept Ryzen 2 si sper sa duca 4.5 Ghz.
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Old 24-09-2017, 20:15   #3891
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@Iubitel dar fara delid cat duce? Nu cred ca poate 5 Ghz fara sa schimbri pasta.

Personal astept Ryzen 2 si sper sa duca 4.5 Ghz.
Alea bune merg, normal, totul e sa nu intri cu el in 90+ grade ca si temp, daca ai procesor ce are nevoie de 1.20 pentru daily la 5 ghz nu ai nevoie de delid.

Suzuki cel mai bun 7700K al meu a mers 5400 1.40 r15, asta merge sub
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Iubitel, ia sa-i faci un pret!
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Old 24-09-2017, 21:42   #3895
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Oricum, ce logica ar avea sa iei asa ceva si sa nu-i faci delid? E o aberatie... Sigur, esti un copil de 15 ani pe banii mami si tati, da, nu-i faci, dar lab501? Wtf...
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Sigur e foarte greu sa vezi logica faptului de a da cateva mii de lei bune pe un proc si mobo si sa nu vrei sa te pisi day one pe garantie...
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Old 24-09-2017, 22:35   #3897
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Believe it or not, pentru crema aia de ghete de sub IHS s-au făcut studii de Trade Off serioase Și de costuri, dar mai ales al păstrării caracteristicilor de-a lungul utilizării.
Pasta dintre die și ihs își menține acele proprietăți CONSTANTE de-a lungul a ani buni de zile. Marea majoritate a userilor nu fac overclock. Pe computere de companie, servere etc de regula nu se face OC la procesor. În condiții stock pasta nu se descurca chiar rău.
Din punct de vedere al caracteristicilor produsului, Overclock-ul e optional, nu obligatoriu. Oficial, nici Intel nici producătorii de placi de baza nu recomanda overclock.
Si studiile astea de fiabilitate n-au fost facute pentru Nehalem si Sandy Bridge, ultimul fiind printre cele mai de succes procesoare cand vine vorba de overclocking?

Orice scuza incearca sa invoce Intel pentru folosirea de pasta termoconductoare in loc de sudura intre pastila de siliciu si IHS = Bullshit.

Prima oara au facut acest regres ca sa oblige consumatorii sa cumpere platforma X79 in loc sa-si ia un Ivy pe care sa-l overclockeze la fel de sus ca un Sandy. Si apoi din lipsa de concurenta pentru profit maxim era evident ca au implementat-o pe toate modelele inclusiv modelele high-end de peste 1000 de parai. Si acuma pe modelul de aproape 2000 de parai.

Daca la 2000 de parai, un model pe care vrei sa-l vinzi ca fiind ultimate performance and overclocking te zgarcesti si folosesti tot un TIM amarat, imi pare rau, but your greed level is OVER 9000!

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Intel 8th Generation Coffee Lake CPUs: Six Cores From $300
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Nu chiar rea vointa ci INTENTIONAT!

Imi aduc aminte cu DX11 pe vista nu era suportat, decit pe win 7.

Apoi la citeva luni, l-au bagat si pe Vista, ca sa bage win 7 pe git...

Asa si aici, am curaj sa fac pariu ca dupa citeva luni bune, 8700K va fi suportat si de Z270, daca acesta este compatibil 100% hardware pin cu pin.
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Delid-ul este pentru cei care fac OC... nu te pasioneaza asa de mult - nu are rost sa iti risti garantia doar ca sa iti stea piticii linistiti ca vai..e mai rece... who cares...

Pe de alta parte, pe 5 veti vedea chestii interesante...mai asteptati oleaca
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