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Old 04-11-2016, 03:27   #3581
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Ia sa vedem si "production sample", ca de cifrele AMD pre-lansare mi-e sila.
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Old 04-11-2016, 11:22   #3582
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Tinand cont ca avansul lui Kaby Lake se preconizeaza a fi neglijabil (Intel si-a permis ca sa lanseze o versiune optimizata a arhitecturii, nu ceva nou), probabil ca Zen nu va fi un mare pericol dpdv al performantei.
Asa ca nu am mari asteptari de la Zen, dar nici de la Kaby. Cel putin vor avea pltforme updatate, cu M.2, USB3.1 etc.
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Old 04-11-2016, 12:56   #3583
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Nu stiu ce e cu poza aia dar cred ca e o poza artistica. Sau rendering facut in ceva program custom ca sa dea bine un anume procesor... Ca in Cinebench de ex. E5-2680 nu e sub x5680 in nici un caz.
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Old 04-11-2016, 14:11   #3584
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Bulldozer v2 ?
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Old 04-11-2016, 14:33   #3585
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Yep

O sa-i zicem BulldoZEN.
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Old 04-11-2016, 17:28   #3586
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Amd-ul are foarte multi fani din astia inraiti. Atat la placi video cat si la procesoare. Inainte de fiecare lansare se creaza un mega hype iar pe urma toata lumea ramane dezamagita.
Astia de la amd nici nu au nevoie de reclama, de marketing, de nimic. Fac fanii totul pentru ei. Uitati-va pe youtube, sunt sute, mii de clipuri cu oameni gen emisiuni tv care vad in viitor si spun cum face si rupe amd-ul pe vulkan, directx12 mantle, draci, laci, ***** balatat tot felul de fenomene astrologice etc.
Si toate astea din dorinta unor fani ca o firma sa depaseasca rivala ei. Parerea mea e ca mai rau fac, creand tot acest hype mereu inainte.
E logic, si imposibil pe deoparte, ca o firma cu 10 angajati si un buget de 100 ron, sa fie mai performanta, mai productiva, mai inventiva decat o firma cu 100 de angajati si un buget de 1000 ron. Asa e si aici. Intel vs amd sunt la ani lumina, si niciodata amd-ul nu va mai fi ce a fost acum 10-15 ani. Au trecut vremurile acelea, bune pentru noi, unde aveam concurenta adevarata.
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Old 04-11-2016, 18:03   #3587
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Nu stiu ce e cu poza aia dar cred ca e o poza artistica. Sau rendering facut in ceva program custom ca sa dea bine un anume procesor... Ca in Cinebench de ex. E5-2680 nu e sub x5680 in nici un caz.
Acestea fiind zise ce relevanta ar avea ranking-ul ala ?
Gresesti putin, E5-2680 e 10cores(20 threads) lansat in 2013,e adevarat la o frecventa mai mica,nu stiu cum ar putea fi mai rapid un x5680 care e six-core(12 threads) din 2011.Probabil te-ai uitat la scoruri DUAL-CPU!

https://us.rebusfarm.net/en/tempbench?view=benchmark

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Old 04-11-2016, 18:31   #3588
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Gresesti putin, E5-2680 e 10cores(16 threads) lansat in 2013,e adevarat la o frecventa mai mica,nu stiu cum ar putea fi mai rapid un x5680 care e six-core(12 threads) din 2011.Probabil te-ai uitat la scoruri DUAL-CPU!

https://us.rebusfarm.net/en/tempbench?view=benchmark
E5-2680 are 8 core-uri (16 threads) si 20 MB cache. E arhitectura Sandy Bridge, e un pic cam vechi, dar totusi in multithreading inca mai are ceva forta.
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Vezi ca e v2 si are 10!20 threads...rectific mai sus.Initial nu ma uitasem nici eu in tabel!

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Gresesti putin, E5-2680 e 10cores(16 threads) lansat in 2013,e adevarat la o frecventa mai mica,nu stiu cum ar putea fi mai rapid un x5680 care e six-core(12 threads) din 2011.Probabil te-ai uitat la scoruri DUAL-CPU!

https://us.rebusfarm.net/en/tempbench?view=benchmark
Reciteste. Asta am zis si eu: x5680 NU e mai bun ca e5-2680.
Asta zic aia care au postat poza cu timpii de randare, ceea ce e total aiurea...
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guest pai nici in tabel nu e mai bun.Acolo lower is better,e timp calculat in secunde!
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Old 04-11-2016, 18:52   #3592
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guest pai nici in tabel nu e mai bun.Acolo lower is better,e timp calculat in secunde!
Am explicat bine sau nu in poza atasata?

LE:Plus ca situatia e cam asa in ceea ce priveste frecventele/core-urile:
e5-2680 -8 core, 2.7GHz si turbo 4/4/5/5/5/7/8/8
x5680 6core, 3.33Ghz si turbo 1/1/1/1/2/2

Deci cu racire adecvata eu zic ca comparatia devine ceva de genul 6 [email protected](parca la x56xx e 133Mhz pe pas) vs 8 [email protected]. Deci diferenta de Ghz e mai mica decat pare la prima vedere diferenta de frecventa scade in realitate de la 0.66Ghz la cam jumate 0.366Ghz.
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Old 04-11-2016, 20:46   #3593
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Ai dreptate,credeam ca te referi la v2, 2680-ul 1st gen nici nu-l observasem in multime!Si mie mi se pare ciudat.

Ei spun ca din 8cores sunt pe acolo cu un Xeon 10cores din 2013 la acelasi clock.Mi se pare mult prea frumos.V2-ul ala e inca animal,in R15 vad ca impinge spre 1400, cam cat un i7 5960X.
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Old 08-11-2016, 20:41   #3594
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Nu este clar in ce conditii a fost facut testul, spre exemplu X5680/X5690 cu turbo activat dar fara down-clock activat, functioneaza astfel:

X5680 6c/12t - 3,47 GHz pe 6c. (26x133MHz)
X5690 6c/12t - 3,59 GHz pe 6c. (27x133MHz)

fara turbo activat, frecventele sunt cele din grafic.
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Old 16-11-2016, 17:28   #3595
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deci vom aveam zen 3 zen 5 si zen 7 in loc de i-uri )

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Old 16-11-2016, 18:02   #3596
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mai interesant in articol zice de preturi, ca ar incepe de la 200$.
deci AMD se scumpeste
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Old 16-11-2016, 18:23   #3597
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da ... treaba cu nomenclatura e asa de fun ... preturile sunt...

zen7 8c/16TH pe la un 400-450 Dolari nu cred ca supara pe nimeni

daca performanta e la nivel de brodwell cred ca pensionez i7 2600K-ul
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Old 16-11-2016, 21:08   #3598
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Doamne ajuta un Zen 8c pe la 400Dolari, crae se ia de gat cu Broadwell, Skylake nefiind prea departe.
Ar fi nevoie de ceva agitatie pe piata CPU.
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400 de dolari la noi ar insemna peste 20 de milioane. Si voi va rugati la preturile acestea... Ne meritam soarta
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Dar e Dumnezeul tuturor procesoarelor. Un i7 cand iese din fabrica Intel plange cu saptamanile in hohote ca nu s-a nascut AMD Zen, d-aia se si incing, suparare.
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