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Old 10-01-2017, 20:18   #21
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Uncore-ul merge maxim 4.9GHz, indiferent de frecventa
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Old 11-01-2017, 19:39   #22
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Sa inteleg ca acel Corsair AIO este mult mai bun decat un Noctua D15?
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Old 11-01-2017, 19:48   #23
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Noctua are un singur ventilator ce abia se invarte, in timp ce AIO-ul Corsair are doua ventilatoare controlate in regim PWM. Nu e MULT mai bun, e o diferenta de cateva grade in load ceea ce atunci cand esti la limita conteaza
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Old 11-01-2017, 19:55   #24
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Matei, cam care ar fi limita maxima de temperatura la 7700K in maxima siguranta?

Intentionez sa-l tin pe al meu in 4900 cu 1,29Vcore, (desi e stabil; si la 1,28, dar sa n-am vreo surpriza cind am treaba), se pare ca nu sare de 82 grade pe unul dintre core-uri, pe celelalte core-uri temperatura e mai joasa cu citeva grade bune (vezi rosu versus albastru).

Pasta e intinsa ok pe CPU si WB (am verificat), ma gindesc ca e de la mizeria interna de pasta proasta si pusa prost.

Practic de aia as fi vrut un delid...

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Noctua are un singur ventilator ce abia se invarte, in timp ce AIO-ul Corsair are doua ventilatoare controlate in regim PWM. Nu e MULT mai bun, e o diferenta de cateva grade in load ceea ce atunci cand esti la limita conteaza
Ok, am inteles. Exista si alt AIO mai bun ca cel din test, sau diferentele sunt insignifiante?
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Old 11-01-2017, 20:03   #26
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Sunt si alte AIO-uri mai bune, dar tinand cont ca pasta din interiorul IHS-ul e slaba si aplicata in strat gros, imbunatatire mare nu va fi
@DjLeco: Daca e sub 90 oC in load eu zic sa stai linistit. Cu delid o sa stai la 5-5.1GHz la aceleasi temperaturi dar va trebui sa dai voltaj in el. Eu zic ca diferenta de performanta nu e colosala, mai bine stai asa. Daca vrei neaparat delid, eu te ajut... nu-i problema!
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Old 11-01-2017, 20:45   #27
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@DjLeco - hai mah 1.29 core / 82 C .. zii mersi nu te mai panica atat, nici pe galben nu intrii, testeaza in aplicatii reale nu in prime si o sa vezi ca esti undeva la 5 grade mai jos

ex: eu in prime95 (v 28.9) ajung la 95C (spike nu constant) iar in prime95 (26.6) nu sare de 90 (la fel spike/nu constant) insa in aplicatii reale (jocuri and crap) nu sar de 80,deci nu mi se pare groaznic atata vreme cat stau in general <80, nu ma stresez, ideea e sa ai un buffer constant de 10-15 % aia e cel mai important - am atasat un read de 20 ore, utilizare normala (filme, muzica, browsing) si joaca ~2-3 ore / diablo 3 si doom (vulkan) - BTW procesul e pus la 1.4 V ... deci ~ 0.16 mV in plus fata de cat are el default (10-11% tandea pe mandea cu sportul de performanta 4500->5000) ce vreau eu sa obtin prin delid, temperaturi mai mici la spike-uri, daca reusesc sa vad <90 grade in prime95 28.9 ma declar multumit, am vazut ca in bios era ceva legat de AVX nu m-am atins tre sa inteleg exact ce face optiunea respectiva.
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Optiunea aia iti seteaza multiplicatorul mai jos pentru aplicatii care folosesc AVX. Pe 0 multiplicatorul AVX e la fel ca cel normal, la 1 multiplicatorul AVX e cu o treapta mai jos (daca ai 50x setat o sa ai 49x in aplicatiile ce folosesc AVX), etc
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Old 11-01-2017, 21:19   #29
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Aha, adica daca este un soft care foloseste instructiuni AVX, ca sa nu crape/throttle sau altceva, cind este treaba cu AVX, se va cobori automat multiplicatorul cu -1, -2, -3, in functie de setarea AVX din bios...

Adica un fel de "lasa-ma ca sa te las"...

Placa mea (AsRock Z170 Gaming K6+) nu are asa ceva (AVX in bios), probabil ca doar Z270-urile au asta.

Sa pastrez placa mea actuala, sau sa incerc o Z270, cind se mai stabilizeaza apele?

Care ar fi avantajele majore ale lui X270?

Inafara de un raid pe 2 M2-uri si ca gestioneaza mai bine memoriile la frecvente mari?

Parca nu m-as desparti de placa actuala, o placa foarte buna si rock solid...
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Z170 Asus Extreme VIII are AVX
In afara de alte dracii,
La Z270 e mai buna gestiunea pe parte de memorii
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Daca vrei neaparat delid, eu te ajut... nu-i problema!
Sorry că fac thread derailing, dar m-aş abona eu cu un 4690K la delid, merge 4.7 GHz la 1.35V dar ajunge la 90 de grade cu NH-D14.
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Facem la un workshop dar vedeti cata bere imi dati inainte
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Da' bere nu e problema, burta sa ai sa umplem!
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De asta ma ocup eu
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Oh man ... presimt un workshop nebunesc ... sper sa pot veni si eu vreodata
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