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Old 15-09-2009, 22:35   #201
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Dupa atita timp si miile de poze urcate de Ramiro ar trebui sa faceti diferenta intre un Ninja si un Infinity.
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Old 15-09-2009, 23:40   #202
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Gizas, nu ar trebui sa invat si dimensiunile ?
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Hehehehe, nu te lua dupa dev ca el si-a luat Megahalems sa doarma cu el in pat, nu sa raceasca procesorul
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Old 16-09-2009, 23:55   #204
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Thermolab BADA Cooler @ Hardware Bistro
Zalman VF2000 LED Hybrid Cooler @ X-bit labs

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What, what , what?!?!?!? Thermolab goes HDT??? Trista zi
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Old 17-09-2009, 00:36   #206
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Nu inteleg ce i-a apucat pe toti cu HDT-ul.. ca peste tot am vazut ca sunt mai slabe. Moda asta le-a intunecat mintile, ce conteaza ca's mai proaste macar sa fie in rand cu "lumea".. sa-i i-a D®¯[v

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Old 17-09-2009, 01:06   #207
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Costa putin producerea lor si marketingul functioneaza (vezi cazul 212+ si multe altele)

Cuprul din care se face baza si aliajul special ce se foloseste la lipirea HP de lamele si in baza costa enorm (daca socotim volume mari de productie). La fel, finurile groase si nichelate impun costuri suplimentare.
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Old 17-09-2009, 07:41   #208
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Deci deaia ii asa scump halemu...
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Old 17-09-2009, 08:38   #209
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..sau True Black
Ramiro in legatura cu 212+ l-am cumparat pt un prieten care-si luase paltforma i5 inainte sa apara pe piata cu vreo 2-3 sapt si aia era singura varianta atunci pt ca big scuriken era mai slab iar Noctua prea scump (singurele care erau comp cu i5 in acel moment).. e un cooler bun in banii aia, aprox 100ron, dar intr-adevar, de cum pui mana pe al iti da un sentiment de ieftin iar pipe-urile parca's din plastic nicidecum cupru, sa numai zic ca acel vent e o rusine pt ca se aude nesimtit de mult si nici foarte eficient nu este. O zi buna si astept materiale noi.
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Ohohohoho, si ce mai materiale noi o sa primiti voi putin mai incolo de la tata Ramiro... Munceste saracul mai ceva ca o albinuta. Momentan a ajuns cam asa, dar mi-a spus ca mai are de scris...

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Old 17-09-2009, 18:08   #211
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Sa speram ca apare articolul daca nu il inghite de tot WordPress-ul

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Fara indoiala ca HDT-urile pot functiona bine pe anumite procesoare si in anumite conditii. Alegerea este a utilizatorului si eu nu am nici o problema cu acest lucru.

Lucrurile se schimba radical in momentul in care site-ul y manipuleaza conditiile de test. Una din multele metodologii de testare poate fi facuta cu heatsink-ul "asa cum a venit", este foarte corecta cu conditia ca pe heatsinkul care nu a venit cu ventilator sa pui unul identic (sau macar unul identic ca turatie). Asta daca esti bine intentionat si nu vrei sa induci in eroare cititorii.

Graficele trebuie sa fie cat mai clare, adica sa contina toate informatiile sesiunii de teste (turatie, voltaje, ambient etc) si bine delimitate pe categorii, nu un ghiveci total din care nu poti intelege mare lucru. Multi dintre cititoti se vor uita doar la grafice si daca nu sunt facute cum trebuie vor fi indusi in eroare.

Celebrul caz 212+ a creat un intreg scandal pe internet nu pentru ca cineva tine neaparat sa arunce cu noroi in HDT, ci pentru ca nu a fost respectata o metodologie corecta. Din grafice (unde prin omisiune nu erau trecute setarile in clar, in special turatiile ventilatoarelor) 212+ era mai bun decat Megahalems. Deci 212+, cu o baza care este o gluma proasta a ajuns "peste noapte" coolerul suprem (a aparut si un thread pe XS unde era considerat noul rege al coolerelor, asta ca sa vedeti cat de departe au mers lucrurile).

Dupa destule "lupte" cei care au scris articolul au recunoscut ca au gresit si chiar au cerut sfaturi despre o buna metodologie de testare, un lucru de apreciat.

Eu ca si reviewer trebuie sa ajut cititorul/utilizatorul in alegerile sale, nu sa il induc in eroare, despre asta e vorba indiferent ce testam.

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Old 17-09-2009, 23:34   #212
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Cunosc problema pusa de tine, mai ales ca de-a lungul a 3 ani mi-au trecut prin mana vreo 10 coolere (mult mai putine decat ti-au trecut tie) si pot spune ca nu era asa cum scrie pe "site-uri". Mai ales ca sunt coolere care vin fara vent si sunt "completate" cu vent-uri pt bench-uri gen Delta sau Kaze adica 3000+ rpm ceea ce sigur nu-i ok.
Am montat in seara asta un Scyte Ninja Rev B pe i5 750 si la 3200mhz cu Slip Stream-ul din dotare in idle avea 31* (intr-o carcasa Beta completata de NB @ 1000rpm). Cred ca este un best-buy acest cooler.. a fost prima oara cand am avut in mana un Ninja. As cumpara un Ninja Cooper Edition dar nu am gasit .. cine stie intr-un final.. poate poate..
O seara buna si nu uitati ca cel mai bun review e cel facut de tine ..daca stii cum "se mananca"

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Old 18-09-2009, 00:09   #213
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Ai dreptate, inclusiv la "capitolul" Ninja. La 80 ron sau chiar mai putin (eu am luat un rev. B cu 65 ron) este de neintrecut. Tine bine chiar si pe i7, nu degeaba i se spune The Legend, lucrurile de mai jos nu prea au nevoie de comentarii.

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Old 18-09-2009, 07:58   #214
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Interesant testul si chiar folositor. Acuma imi pare si mie rau ca am dat Ninja, dar asta e raman si eu cu ce am.
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Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus @ Vortez.co.uk
Alpenfoehn Nordwand @ OCaholic.ch
Nexus FLC-3000 CPU Cooler @ PureOverclock
Thermaltake MeOrb CPU Cooler @ Hi Tech Legion
Evercool Transformer 4 CPU Cooler @ HardwareZone
Thermaltake MaxOrb EX @ Hi Tech Legion
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Old 21-09-2009, 21:07   #216
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Cool Age Frozen Orb X120 Transform (@Pro-clockers)
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Old 21-09-2009, 23:07   #217
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X120 e un semiesec, are probleme la arhitectura.

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a aparut si silent-ul la pc-coolers
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Old 22-09-2009, 00:09   #219
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Da, am vazut, o sa il testez si pe ala dar mai incolo putin. Mai vor fi de testat destule, inca ceva hdt-uri mai rasarite (Thor's Hammer e bagat in articol) Boss 2, Asus Triton 88, Tuniq Tower Ex.
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Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme CPU Cooler (@pcShopTalk)
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