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Old 11-12-2018, 10:35   #6741
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Ryzen 3000 Series CPU Specifications Leak
On the clock speed front, AMD Ryzen 3000 series processors will boast impressive performance, with their Ryzen 9 3850 boosting all the way up to 5.1GHz, albeit with a 135W TDP. Not bad for a sixteen core processor.
CPU Cores/Threads GPU Base/Boost Clock TDP Price Debut
Ryzen 3 3300 6/12 N/A 3.2/4.0GHz 50W $99 CES
Ryzen 3 3300X 6/12 N/A 3.5/4.3GHz 65W $129 CES
Ryzen 3 3300G 6/12 Navi (15 CU) 3.0/3.8GHz 65W $129 Q3 2019
Ryzen 5 3600 8/16 N/A 3.6/4.4GHz 65W $178 CES
Ryzen 5 3600X 8/16 N/A 4.0/4.8GHz 95W $229 CES
Ryzen 5 3600G 8/16 Navi (20 CU) 3.2/4.0GHz 95W $199 Q3 2019
Ryzen 7 3700 12/24 N/A 3.8/4.6GHz 95W $299 CES
Ryzen 7 3700X 12/24 N/A 4.2/5.0GHz 105W $329 CES
Ryzen 9 3800X 16/32 N/A 3.9/4.7GHz 125W $449 CES
Ryzen 9 3850X 16/32 N/A 4.3/5.1GHz 135W $499 May 2019

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Old 11-12-2018, 10:51   #6742
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Cu asa bestie nu stiu daca voi mai astepta pentru Threadripper.
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Old 11-12-2018, 10:59   #6743
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Cu asa bestie nu stiu daca voi mai astepta pentru Threadripper.
scurt si la obiect, Threadripper-ul va fi si mai interesant, nuclee fara numar - ca la manele, noua lege a lui Moore isi intra in drept:

minim 24c/48t sau 32c/64t pana la 64c/128t ca pe pe Rome EPYC, fara probleme de transfer cu memoria ca si la 2970WX si 2990WX, pe arhitectura cu chiplets, module de 7nm pentru nuclee, si 14 nm modul comun I/O - dar mai pe la sfarsitul lui 2019.

oare intel poate tine pasul cu noua lege a lui Moore?

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Old 11-12-2018, 11:09   #6744
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Pot sustine placile cu A320 Ryzen 9 3850X cu TDP de 135W?
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:10   #6745
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Va fi de vazut cum lucreaza Ryzen/TR cu memoria, daca o sa fie o problema pe mobo-urile de Ryzen cu 64gb RAM, atunci va trebui sa ma orientez pe TR. Din fericire se anunta upgrade-uri mari pe partea de lucru cu RAM-ul asa ca n-am decat sa ma uit cum se desfasoara peisajul de-afara de pe scaunul meu din hype train.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:18   #6746
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Pot sustine placile cu A320 Ryzen 9 3850X cu TDP de 135W?
c'mon, you're joking? probabil numai anumite placi de baza cu minim 6-8 faze de alimentare pe CPU il vor suporta, si limitarea va fi facuta prin suportul BIOS.
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Old 11-12-2018, 11:51   #6747
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Abia gasesti un b450 cu 6 faze si tranzistori decenti si tu vrei A320?
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Old 11-12-2018, 12:02   #6748
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fara probleme de transfer cu memoria
Asta rămâne de văzut. Conform interviului dat de Mark Papermaster celor de la Anandtech cu privire la Epyc Rome, noile CCX-uri vor fi legate doar la I/O die si orice nevoie de comunicare între CCX uri (CCX 1 are nevoie de datele din L3 cache al CCX 2) se va traduce printr-o penalitate de latenta.
Jim de la AdoredTV a venit cu ideea ca cei de la AMD ar putea crea copii pentru L3 cache în interiorul I/O die-ul, dar e pura speculație.


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Old 11-12-2018, 12:43   #6749
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c'mon, you're joking? probabil numai anumite placi de baza cu minim 6-8 faze de alimentare pe CPU il vor suporta, si limitarea va fi facuta prin suportul BIOS.
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Abia gasesti un b450 cu 6 faze si tranzistori decenti si tu vrei A320?
Eu vorbesc de stock nu de overclocking.
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Old 11-12-2018, 13:15   #6750
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chiar si stock, B450 n-as lua decat vreo 2-3 modele pentru un 2700X/1800X.
Pentru hexa/quad core-uri sunt ok in mare.
Problema e nu DOAR VRM-ul, e combinatie de VRM mediocru + racire proasta aka pui 1800X pe un a320/b450 si te intrebi de ce nu merge la fel de bine dupa 10-15 minute comparativ cu teste online/ o placa cu vrm+ cooling bun.

pentru placa ta spre exemplu
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Pot sustine placile cu A320 Ryzen 9 3850X cu TDP de 135W?
Vei avea nevoie de o placa serioasa pentru TDP-ul ala, nici un A320 nu iti ofera asa ceva.

Mai mult, exista sansa ca doar placile viitoare sa suporte calumea procesoarele astea.
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Old 11-12-2018, 14:54   #6752
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Am incercat Ryzen anul asta si m-a dezamagit suportul pentru memorii. Dar unul din seria 3000 cu 8 core-uri(nu ma intereseaza SMT/HT) si o Navi 3800 sau cum se vor numi, vor fi urmatorul meu upgrade.
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Old 11-12-2018, 15:21   #6753
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Cum s-a mai scris totul tine de placa de baza si bios. Eu pe MSI B350 nu am avut nici cea mai mica problema si am 4 x 4Gb care merg in 2933Mhz CL 14 .
E adevarat am citit destul de mult inainte sa cumpar placa de baza si memoria Corsair LPX care sunt cele mai indicate memori si placi de baza pentru a merge totul perfect, procesorul Ryzen 1700 sta in 3.8 Ghz cu voltaj stock fara probleme. Pana in 2024 chiar nu ma astept sa am vreo problema cu platforma asta la cum evolueaza jocurile.

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Old 11-12-2018, 15:31   #6754
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E foarte posibil ca pentru a mari compatibilitatea AM4 pentru procesoarele noi cu TDP mare, sa impuna throttle. Adica 3850x sa fie de ex limitat la 4.5ghz, sau la cat inseamna pentru el ~100W TDP. Partea buna e ca poti lua procesorul, il poti pune pe placa veche dupa update de BIOS, si sa folosesti cele 32 de thread-uri. Un upgrade masiv de la orice CPU aveai inainte, chiar daca o sa stea la frecvente mai mici decat ce poate el. Apoi daca mai vrei inca 15-20% performanta, schimbi si Mobo.

Ideea e ca longevitatea AM4 e un lucru extraordinar, dar e normal sa existe anumite limite. Eu unul m-am saturat de cate ori au pus astia de la Intel un pin in plus sau au modificat layout-ul socket-ului, pentru un rahat de 5-10% salt de performanta de la generatie la generatie. But wait, cine face chipset-urile pentru noile mobo? Damn, Intel? )
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Chestia cu socketul o avea si AMD acum vreo 10 ani, skt 754, 939, AM1, FM 1 etc.
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Eu pe MSI B350 nu am avut nici cea mai mica problema si am 4 x 4Gb care merg in 2933Mhz CL 14 .
Ale mele nu au mers sub nicio forma in 4x4 la mai mult de 2400, 2x4 mergeau la 2993 fara probleme si cum 2700 nu avea performanta mai mare ca 8600k in ce folosesc eu, am pastrat platforma Intel.

Singura problema pe care o vad, pe langa o posibila incompatibilitate cu RAMul actual, e ca placile de baza noi, nu suporta PCI si va trebui sa renunt la XFIul meu
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placile de baza noi, nu suporta PCI si va trebui sa renunt la XFIul meu
Link sa ma interesez si eu? N-am auzit de asta pana acum.
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Am urmărit și eu problema. Ultimele plăci Intel care au slot PCI sunt pe Z370. Nicio placă lansată cu Z390 nu mai are slot PCI. La AMD nu știu cum stă treaba.
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Z390 Taichi Ultimate are 2 sloturi Pci-E 1X
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Z390 Taichi Ultimate are 2 sloturi Pci 1X
Unde, pe extrados?

Era vorba de slot PCI, adică legacy PCI, ăla în care se infig diferite plăci mai vechi, cum ar fi plăcile de sunet.
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Xonar DX-ul meu e PCI-e, chiar daca 1x. O sa mearga?

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