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Old 03-11-2018, 21:02   #101
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Te-ai uitat la video ce l-am postat ? E destul de simplu, sigur vei gasi si pe Asrock setarile.

Idea este sa lasii cache jos, 43 exemplu. Pune LLC 5 sau 6, nu sta pe 1. Maximizeaza power pe procesor, totul la max, powermanagement pe zero, sa mearga pe max, in windows pus powerplan pe performance.
Foloseste profilul XMP la memorii, XMP1 ar trebui sa mearga. Ia in ordine, procesor, cache si apoi memorii.

Pune niste screenuri cu biosul.
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Old 03-11-2018, 21:03   #102
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Si la mine ruleaza 8600k in Cinebench la 5ghz cu <1.2, dar daca rulez prime e instant crash, asa ca am ramas la 4.8ghz cu 1.168.
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Old 04-11-2018, 00:36   #103
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Revin, dragi colegi.

Sint la club cu muzici pentru publici, cu beri cu whiskeane, va dedic tot ce e mai bun!

Se pare ca la 1,32Vcore e f ok, pt 5 GHz, stabil orice mai putin prime cu AVX sau FMA.

L-am lasat la "randat" sa vad ce zice.

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Old 04-11-2018, 11:08   #104
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Pune multiplicatorul de AVX la 4.5 sau unde e stabil.
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Old 05-11-2018, 02:40   #105
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5GHz stabil cu 1,31Vcore, 2183 puncte cinebench.

Nu-mi mai bat capul cu prime si alte alea, OCCT, IBT si Cinebench.

In gaming e mult mai relax decit in testele astea 3.

Stiu ca mai era un test de la Asus, dar nu-mi mai aduc aminte cum se numeste...

Daca pica ii mai dau 0.01V si aia e.

Deocamdata "stick" pe 9900K, mai ales ca am recuperat 150 lei din pretul platit.
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Old 05-11-2018, 07:39   #106
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Realbench.
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Old 05-11-2018, 11:12   #107
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Asa, mercic frumos!
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Old 05-11-2018, 16:42   #108
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Pentru Realbench a trebuit sa ridic la 1,32 Vcore in bios si sa tin LLC2, LLC2 la ASRock fiind echivalent cu LLC6 la Asus.
AVX a ramas nemodificat, iar pentru siguranta i-am dat 1,33Vcore.
2 nedumeriri au ramas, ba chiar 3:
Am lasat cache pe auto, in bios arata 5000/5000/4700/3600 (CPU, AVX, Cache, DDR).
Prima nedumerire ar fi ca atit in cinebench cit si in realbench, daca ma uit in CpuZ, cache nu sare de 4300 (lasat pe auto).
E normal asta, nu trebuia sa urce la 4700MHz?
A doua nedumerire ar fi ca daca umblu la AVX sa scad, cu 1,2,3,4, cu celelalte setari neatinse, crapa in cinebench cu orice valoare aleg inafara de auto (frecv maxima), desi testat in cinebench este stabil si la 1,30Vcore cu AVX neatins (auto).
Daca las AVX pe auto, adica tot 5000MHz, dau si 100 cinebench unul dupa altul, nu crapa chiar daca CpuZ arata si 1,29Vcore...
De ce oare face porcaria asta daca modidic AVX?
Nu trebuia ca, cu AVX offset la 1, 2 sau 3, sistemul sa fie mai usor stresat, procesorul urcind maxim in 4900,4800 respectiv 4700MHz, in functie de AVX offset value, daca aplicatia stie de AVX?

Si ultima nedumerire ar fi referitoare la memorii, care sint default 3200MHz/CL14/1,35Vdram si le tineam de cind le-am luat in 3600MHz/CL16/1,36Vdram.
Le-am testat astazi tot la 1,36Vdram dar am urcat la 3800MHz tot cu CL16, sist a bootat din prima, dar crapa aleatoriu in Intel Burn Test.
Cum am urcat la 1,375Vdram, a trecut fara probleme 10 pasi de IBT cu memoria la very high.
Cam care ar fi cea mai buna setare, 3200 cu CL14 sau 3600 cu CL16? Cred ca pentru 3800 cu 16 ar trebui cam 1,38Vdram.
E SAFE voltajul asta 24/7 use?
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Old 05-11-2018, 16:51   #109
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Ram-ul poti sa il tii si la 1,4, n-are nici pe dracu'. Ca nu castigi nimic, asta e alta chestie..
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Old 05-11-2018, 17:51   #110
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sunt kituri certificate cu 1.5v din fabrica, memoriile mele de bench au mancat 2.15v cu zilele, stai calm.

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Old 05-11-2018, 18:14   #111
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Ok, deci daca ii dau 1,38-1,39Vdram la memorii, e ok 24/7.
O nelamurire e rezolvata.

La celelalte 2, ma ajuta cineva cu mai multa experienta decit mine?
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Old 06-11-2018, 14:18   #112
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Nu stiu daca ajuta dar am tinut mai bine de un an si jumatate i3 6100 cu ram la 1.55v si scoate acelasi scor in teste ca in prima zi , nici un semn al degradarii in timp nu se vede .


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Old 06-11-2018, 17:47   #113
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C‚nd ramul se degradează nu Óncetinește, ci te umple de bsod-uri.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:07   #114
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Bine .....> nu are nici un bsod ,eroare ,etc .
Si daca totusi sunt erori de corectat nu inseamna ca e musai sa ai ecran albatru.
Si asa pentru tine ca idee ,nu ramul se degradeaza la noile platforme ci controlerul din procesor (IMC-ul) care se poate arde .
Degradarea se face in procesor nu in ram ,fa-ti temele inainte de a comenta .
Ramul rezista la voltaje mult peste ce esti tu invatat sa faci cu Asrock-ul ala ...
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Old 07-11-2018, 05:33   #115
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Cred ca, cam asta este, cu asta trebuie sa ma multumesc...

Pareri?

Real Bench 2.65 cu OC la placa video si CPU 24/7 use:





Pentru colegul kvarq, diferenta temperaturi intre cache setat manual in bios la 4300MHz si 4800MHz, fara sa modific absolut nimic altceva (voltaje sau setari, doar cache freq):

Temperaturi Cache 4300MHz:



Temperaturi Cache 4800MHz:








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Eu zic ca deocamdata e ok, mai pot da 100MHz pentru 1,35-1,36Vcore cu LLC2, dar 5000MHz all cores, imi este suficient.

Vedem mai la vara ce revizii or mai aparea, ce suduri or mai face (daca imbunatatesc ceva), pentru ca mi se pare bataie de joc ca un procesor cu DIE sudat de IHS sa aibe asemenea temperaturi, racit pe lichid, cind temperatura lichidului nu depaseste 35-37 grade, martor fiind placa video ce "haleste" si 369Watts peak si nu depaseste 46 grade celsius...

Am pus si mina pe waterblock, pe partea din cupru, este caliie, pina in 4x grade masurat minometric, cind CPU arata 98+ grade celsius in Core Temp 1.12.1...

Mortii vostri, Intel!

Sper sa ajung sa prind vremea cind o sa aveti soarta 3Dfx.
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Old 07-11-2018, 09:05   #116
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100 de grade pe apa... super proc.
Si mai cer si 2800 pe el, si totusi se bate lumea sa-l cumpere.
WTF!


Leco, eu l-as lasa fix default, fara OC. Cu 1-2 thread-uri o sa se duca in 5.0 GHz, cand o sa folosesti mai multe thread-uri putin mai jos pe la un 4.6.

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Mortii vostri, Intel!

Sper sa ajung sa prind vremea cind o sa aveti soarta 3Dfx.
Intel, cand citeste ce-ai scris tu aici.

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Old 07-11-2018, 11:06   #118
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@Leco, de ce nu 4.6 Ghz cu un voltaj mult mai mic si temperaturi omenesti? Am inteles ca este un comp de gaming, crede-ma nu-i nicio diferenta intre 5 Ghz si 4.6.. Nu cu placa aia video. Poate cu SLI de 2080Ti sa fie ceva..
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De ce, colegii?

Credeti ca pe mine ma deranjeaza ca sta in temperatura aia?

Sa stea si in 115 grade 24/7, mortii lui, cit timp e in garantie mi se rupe...

Deja procesorul munceste, de 2 zile sta la 5 GHz full load.
Cind nu ma joc, face si altceva, banii platiti pe el incep usor usor sa se recupereze in timp, inafara de satisfactia gaming.
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De ce ai 800Mhz si multi 8 ? Ai lasat in WIN power scheme la Balanced ?

Nu e ok cu acele temperaturi, ceva nu se pupa la testele tale.

Din cauza ca trebuie sa schimb placa de baza mai repede de 8 zile nu pot monta sistemul meu.

O sa vedem atunci o comparatie.
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