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Old 09-09-2019, 14:16   #581
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Eu in cazul tau as lua 2700 si cat mai mult ram. Daca este pentru tine, fa upgrade de la 1700x la 3600(x) si lasa 1700x pentru vm-uri.
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Old 09-09-2019, 14:44   #582
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Acum am vazut ca e outdated semnatura. Am un 2700x la mine in computer, nu am motiv de upgrade foarte mare. Vreau un mini lab virtual ca sa aprofundez Windows server. Initial m-am gandit la 32 GB RAM, poate mai tarziu, acum raman la 16 GB sa incep toata chestia. Daca chiar vad ca nu merge bine, mai am 2 sloturi libere. Pe langa asta mai am un "server" cu Core i7 4790 care are 32 GB RAM, 1-2 VM-uri le pot trimite si acolo. Nu pot muta RAM-ul pe asta pentru ca i7 are DDR3.
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Old 10-09-2019, 12:05   #583
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Ultimele biosuri beta pentru gigabyte, alea care cica repara boost-ul: https://forums.tweaktown.com/gigabyt...beta-bios.html
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Old 12-09-2019, 07:43   #584
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Mult mai rece 3700x ul cu delid in aceleasi conditii de test,10-11 grade mai jos(fata de 3900x non delid).




Inca nu am apucat sa fac delid la 3900x...cu ajutorul planetelor care se vor alinia sper in weekend )
PS:A nu se intelege ca are vreun efect delid-ul ))sau cel putin asa cred,pur si simplu e normal oarecum sa fie mai rece,doar ca nu ma asteptam la diferenta asta.
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Old 16-09-2019, 20:40   #585
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noul bios de pe gigabyte x570 master F7A cu agesa 1003abba imi da cei 25 mhz lipsa in plus la single boost si am 4550 acum single core in hwinfo ultimul beta , vad ca da mai bine si in cinebench cu el, de rezolv si cu temperaturile sunt maxim multumit , desi eu cred ca tdp 105w e ca si la 3900x deci voi obtine pe 3800x tempuri de 3900x din pacate chiar daca e single ccd, custom loop scrie pe mine. @Gaminggrade super temperaturi ai acolo pe 3700x.
UPDATE: well foocking kudos to AMD they fixed something!!!!!!m-am jucat un pic cu setarile azi noapte si noul bios beta si acum cand folosesc cpu negative offset voltage scade temperatura si performanta e ceea ce trebuie!!! adica mai bine decat stock all auto!!!, inainte cu cpu stock cand setam negative offset sa scada voltajul si implicit temperatura, scadea si performanta simtitor. Acum cu negative offset -0.08125v (sweetspotul pe care l-am identificat in cazul meu jongland intre -0.05 si -0.1) + cpu llc standard +soc llc standard+ pbo disabled am maxim 74 grade in cinebench r20!!!!!!!!!!!8 grade mai jos decat all auto !!!! si scorurile in cpuz sunt 531+ single si 5706+ multi, cbr20 5040+, cbr15 single 212 constant si multi e 2200+. PBO e in continuare degeaba peste 4550 mhz nu am avut, si cu pbo setat auto da mai prost in teste
ALL in all sunt foarte multumit de cum se prezinta in momentul de fata
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Old 01-10-2019, 22:53   #586
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small update, aorus x570 master + amd 3800x am reusit sa fac pbo sa mearga iei!!!, bios f7c+drivere din august (in alea din septembrie max boost e mai jos la mine), pbo enabled advanced (pbo scalar manual x10)+ 200mhz rest auto+ cpu neg offset -0.1v + standard cpu llc , bclk 100.72( mai sus nu vrea in ratie 1:1 ) ifclock 1812, ram xmp enabled 32gb 3624mhz cu timinguri setate manuae 16-16-16-32-48-312-1t. Am rulat mai multe superpi mod1.5xs 1mb si 32mb si frecventa maxima atinsa in timpul unui run a fost 4607mhz, inregistrata de hwinfo 6.12 setat la 500ms (ignorati scorul), temperatura maxima inregistrata cu aida64 stability test 80c grade maximum spike , average 79c la o temperatura a camerei de 22.5 c, i am 1 happy ryzen 3000 user. Scorul in cpuz e mai ok cu pbo in multithread
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Old 02-10-2019, 08:43   #587
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Ai incercat fara offsetul ala de -0.1V? S-ar putea sa iti afecteze performanta.
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Old 02-10-2019, 09:33   #588
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Ai incercat fara offsetul ala de -0.1V? S-ar putea sa iti afecteze performanta.
in cazul meu daca nu folosesc offset temperaturile scapa de sub control si ajung pe la 85 de grade dupa un run de cinebench cu aceste setari fara neg offset, si din cauza asta scorurile sunt afectate in mod negativ de freceventa redusa pe multithread . Azi voi face teste cu un alt 3800x+aorus x570 pro sa vad daca acest procesor al meu cere mai mult curent decat ii trebuie sau daca e placa de baza care da mai mult vcore decat ii trebuie cpu si trebuie sa folosesc acest neg offset. Nu sunt singurul care obtine scoruri mai bune cu neg offset decat fara , pe forumul care urmaresc de pe overclock.net aorus x570 owners thread sunt multi care au necazul asta cu temperaturile

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Old 02-10-2019, 14:16   #589
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Vezi ca bclk mai sus o sa mearga cand nu mai folosesti deloc sata, doar nvme. Am testat si eu un 3800x pe C8 Impact, 4500 1.37v pe all cores voltaj fix si cooler stock, 87 grade [emoji41]

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Old 02-10-2019, 20:19   #590
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Vezi ca bclk mai sus o sa mearga cand nu mai folosesti deloc sata, doar nvme. Am testat si eu un 3800x pe C8 Impact, 4500 1.37v pe all cores voltaj fix si cooler stock, 87 grade [emoji41]

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ms mult , nu stiam de ce nu reusesc cu bclkul ala peste 100.72 , da cpu astea de 105w au in jur de 10 grade in plus fata de alea de 65w din seria 3000 si tot 10 grade in plus fata de amd 2700x care e tot 105w.
Cat despre cpu cel nou 3800x cu aorus x570 pro la mine la munca , am reusit sa plec cu bclk 101(acasa mie nu imi mai pleaca sistemul deloc) dar mi au disparut sata-urile si acum cu ce mi-a zis Iubitel inteleg si de ce. Scor maxim in cbr20 4895, windows 10 1903 fresh, ultimele drivere amd, ultimul bios f6c, cooler stock si memoriile niste porcarii de gskill tridentz non rgb 16 gb 3200 cl 16-18-18-38, trebuie sa ma joc cu el fiindca merge mult mai prost ca si sistemul meu de acasa, sper cat de repede sa imi ajunga noctua nh u12a si la munca ca mi-au trimis tolomacii nh u12s care e juma de pret fata de cel facturat si pe care binenteles l-am returnat. Cu setarile ce le folosesc pe sistemul meu de acasa cpu voltaj neg offset, llc, pbo exceptand ram am obtinut doar 8234 de puncte in cbr20 adica cu 900 de puncte mai putin decat pe pcul de acasa. Cu toate setarile stock si rami xmp am obtinut 4895, trebuie sa mai testez si cu niste b die kit x570 pro-ul si sa vad ce si cum si cu voltajele si llcul

Iubitel 87 de grade dupa un run de cinebench r20? suoer smeceherie daca cpu poate sa faca 4500 cu 1.37 si sa poti rula cinebench r20 fara sa crape

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inca ceva observat pe cele 2 configuratii cu 3800x, max boostul pe cpu atat single cat si multi la ambele configuratii urca mai sus cand ifclockul e la 1766 si ramii la 3533 in loc de 1800 cu 3600, eu un trade off care mie imi convine diferenta fiind nesimnificativa in aplicatiile pe care le rulez .Deci prefer ramul mai jos si cpul mai rapid, in geekbench de ex imi scade scorul din cauza ramului dar in cinebench e mai bine

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Old 05-10-2019, 23:19   #592
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Probabil ca sunt nebun...
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Old 05-10-2019, 23:37   #593
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Nu, nu. Ce R5 e ala 3600? Balistix-urile le-am luat deja, astept BF pentru un 3600 si un itx.
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3600X, 3600 nu am avut decat imprumut din pacate
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Old 07-10-2019, 00:35   #595
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Eh tot aia
Intre timp citii articolul pe site. E clar B450 + R5 3600 de BF si in sfarsit fac si eu upgrade de la 3570k. Probabil un Aorus Pro Wifi, a mica, ITX, ca-mi aduc aminte ca ai laudat-o.
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O am si acum intr-un sistem, e super placa mititica
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Old 31-10-2019, 19:34   #597
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Va salut,as vrea un sfat ,vreau sa cumpar o placa de baza pentru ryzen 3600x,si ma gandeam la una dintre cele doua modele :MSI X470 GAMING PLUS MAX si MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX

-https://www.evomag.ro/componente-pc-placi-de-baza/msi-placa-de-baza-msi-x470-gaming-plus-max-amd-x470-amd-am4-atx-3771115.html

-https://www.evomag.ro/componente-pc-placi-de-baza/msi-placa-de-baza-msi-b450-tomahawk-max-amd-am4-b450-ddr4-atx-3758704.html
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B450 e super ok.
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Pentru o platformă de 3600x cu Msi B450 ,mă gândesc să cumpăr 32 GB RAM ,am găsit pe frecventa de 3200 cl16 pe Samsung sau 3600 cl19 pe hynix ,care dintre ele ar fi mai ok?ambele sunt de la G.skill,mă gândesc că poate pe viitor o sa mai fac upgrade la placa de baza și să ridic mai sus memoriile .

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Au ales si ăștia sa facă un pc de gaming cu ryzen5 3600
https://videotutorial.ro/configurati...ax-fps-pe-leu/
De ce n-au pus cu cpu ryzen7 oare
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