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Old 13-07-2017, 21:28   #1321
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Peste 10 ore la www.ethermine.org se va modifica DAG.

Ce inseamna asta, ce presupune?
Daca acum minez cu 38,5Mhash/sec cu 1080Ti, va scadea rata de hashing sau cum se va manifesta aceasta "next DAG:10 hours"?
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La 1080ti probabil ca nu se va modifica nimic. Placile AMD sunt cele mai afectate.
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Old 13-07-2017, 21:35   #1323
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Practic, ce inseamna chestia aia si cum va afecta placile pe care le afecteaza (generally speaking)?
Cine "modifica" acel DAG, ce este acel DAG?

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Inseamna cresterea complexitatii calculelor. In functie de arhitectura placii video, esti mai mult sau mai putin afectat. De exemplu RX 570 si 580 vor fi cele mai afectate din cele mainstream. Nu foarte mult, dar incet incet incep sa fie din ce in ce mai putin utile. Placi gen 1080 ti, 1070 sunt cele mai putin afectate pe termen lung.
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Dar nu au modificat zilelea astea dificultatea fara DAG?
Ca a crescut enorm alaltaieri parca...

Si mai exact cum e faza cu dificultatea ca mie viteza imi sta tot cam pe acolo, dar la estimari acuma e aproape jumate cat era acu o luna, vorbesc de eth minat nu valoare.
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Old 13-07-2017, 21:59   #1326
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Inseamna cresterea complexitatii calculelor. In functie de arhitectura placii video, esti mai mult sau mai putin afectat. De exemplu RX 570 si 580 vor fi cele mai afectate din cele mainstream. Nu foarte mult, dar incet incet incep sa fie din ce in ce mai putin utile. Placi gen 1080 ti, 1070 sunt cele mai putin afectate pe termen lung.
Asta imi pare "mina in mina" cu ideea de a cumpara placi de top, nu?!?
Iau spaga de la verzi sau rosii, ca sa vinda top of the top?

Traducerea in limba noastra a DAG, care ar fi pina la urma?
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Old 13-07-2017, 22:00   #1327
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Mai degraba ca sa vanda ASIC mineri.
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Pai e mai rentabil cu asa ceva sau care e ideea?
Cit costa un ASIC miner, de unde il luam si "ce stie" sa faca comparativ cu o 1080Ti?
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https://asicminermarket.com/
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"asic" miner: https://asicminermarket.com/product/...ash-xmr-miner/
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Old 13-07-2017, 22:19   #1331
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Interesat, dar mai oki e placa video, te si joci cu ea...

EDIT: s-a deschis link-ul in final...
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Da e mai ok ca te si joci, dar ca randament/pret/consum curent, nu e deloc ok comparativ cu un miner dedicat.
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Cine "modifica" acel DAG

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Da e mai ok ca te si joci, dar ca randament/pret/consum curent, nu e deloc ok comparativ cu un miner dedicat.
Nu cred că este diferență așa mare între plăci.
Am găsit asta când am căutat:


https://www.reddit.com/r/EtherMining...ions_106_tmus/

http://imgur.com/a/9qtNw

Se vede clar că au PCB-ul de la plăcile video, trace-urile de la connectori sunt acolo expuși, deci în teorie băieții deștepți vor putea să adauge connectorii respectivi aftermarket și să facă conversia înapoi la plăci video.
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Nu cred că este diferență așa mare între plăci.
Fa un calcul, e diferenta cam mare zic eu. Cat te costa un setup care sa scoata 200 Mh/s ETH si cat consuma......si cat pierzi la el de cate ori creste dificultatea.

Daca un 1080 Ti scoate cam 38 Mh/s, iti trebe 5 placi (cam 5000$, la preturile actuale)+placa de baza sa suporte 5 placi+sursa imensa+ restul. Am zis 1080Ti ca doar asta se cam gaseste in stoc.

Plus ca multe monezi le poti mina doar cu ASIC.
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Prea multa baiate de cap sa stai sa mermelesti la ele...
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Din ce am văzut scurt și rapid, ce au ăștia la vânzare/ce propun ei să vândă nu sunt clasicele ASIC-uri care au spart piața bitcoin, adică nu este un procesor specializat (ASIC = Application Specific Integrated Circuit). Nu știu cum se fac astea exact, dar cred că noile monede sunt protejate mai bine la FPGA-uri.

Ce vând ei sunt niște carcase în care au băgat o placă de bază cu multe sloturi PCIExpress, procesor Intel rahitic și 8 x CMP6, dar astea sunt un fel de 1060-uri castrate, cu radiator de aluminiu și fără connectori video, deci în principiu dacă apar la greu pe piață și apoi se sparge bâlciul, dacă îi pui o mufă hdmi și 2 rezistențe o convertești la loc în ce a fost la început, adică GTX 1060.



Ce îți vând chinezii este soluție completă, probabil totul e gândit low power, cred că are si softul de minat gata instalat și configurat. Nu m-ar mira să îți ofere și un live update la pachet care să îti optimizeze/updateze softul, eventual cu un trojan micuț la pachet, când ai adunat ceva să îți adune băieții caimacu'.
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A trecut pe new DAG, tot cu 38,5MHash/sec lucreaza, la mine nu s-a modificat nimic fata de ieri.
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DAGul nou afecteaza mai mult placile cu GB mai putini.
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A fost un test pus acu ceva pagini. La AMD se simte, la GPU nvidia pascal, il cam doare-n bascheți de DAG-ul eth-ului.

Singura piedica majora e cand o sari DAG-ul de 3Gb ram ocupati, in cazul 1060 3Gb, in rest liniste si pace.
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