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Old 10-06-2019, 23:56   #7201
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Mai compara cineva cu Intel ? Doar in jocuri cu procesoarele de au minim 6 nuclee or sa mai fie in fata, mai ales cele care se pot overclocka.
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Old 11-06-2019, 00:20   #7202
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Mai trebuie luat in calcul si costul de productie. Ryzen trebuie sa fie ieftin, foarte ieftin la cat de eficienta e productia lor. Daca si seria asta de Ryzen este sub intel in jocuri, strang bani sa schimb platforma.
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Old 11-06-2019, 00:22   #7203
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Costul de productie este rareori relevant pretului de vanzare. Mai ieftin de produs = castig mai mare pentru ei.
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Old 11-06-2019, 01:32   #7204
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Si totusi.... la ce pret au amd 8 core-uri si la ce pret au Intel? Clar nu face nimeni caritate, mai ales la high-end, dar stateam si acum pe quad-core-uri Intel la 350 USD daca nu erau AMD
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Eu eram dispus sa dau 1100$ pe un i7 6900K... Noroc ca am stat cuminte cateva luni si am luat 1800X la 1590 de lei! Acelasi nivel de performanta +/-! Cu seria Ryzen ThreadRipper 2 am avut cam aceeasi experienta, cand am construit un sistem unui coleg de serviciu. Inca vin beri gratis!
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Old 11-06-2019, 03:26   #7205
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1. Cand iese 16 core si ce pret va avea?
2. High FPS gaming, cum va fi 8 core vs intel?
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Plăcut E3-ul AMD, software +hardware.
Echilibru. (Insert Thanos)
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Old 11-06-2019, 06:27   #7206
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Comparatia e prea barbara, compara performantele nu numarul de core-uri. Ai frecvente mult mai mari decat ce-a reusit generatia anterioara cuplat cu IPC imbunatatit serios, consum semnificativ mai mic la aceeasi performanta, viteza memoriei crescuta, etc.
Si ce alte chestii ai mai citit tu in globul de cristal ?
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Old 11-06-2019, 10:31   #7207
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Pai e afacere mon cher, AMD cand au ocazia sunt mai rai decat Intel Just wait for it.
Nu poate fi nimeni mai rau decat intel, poate nu stii istoria lor cu ce tactici au ...
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Old 11-06-2019, 10:52   #7208
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Sure, lol.
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:13   #7209
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Observ ca acum poti duce frecventa memoriilor la 4000Mhz relativ usor. Mai e aceeasi scalare a performantei cu frecventa memoriei?
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:29   #7210
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Observ ca acum poti duce frecventa memoriilor la 4000Mhz relativ usor. Mai e aceeasi scalare a performantei cu frecventa memoriei?
a) din slide-urile AMD infinity fabric merge pana pe la ddr3600/ddr3733 1:1 cu RAM-ul;
b) pentru frecvente mai mari au introdus un divizor 1:2 - cum scaleaza, vom vedea, (singura lor diagrama era cu variatia latentelor, cum se vor comporta in realitate mai vedem), sigur vor fi diferente in implemetarile de BIOS si ca optiuni si din punct de vedere al comportarii real life - mai sunt 4 sapatamani pana atunci, strangeti bani: placile X570 vor fi cu 30% mai scumpe, cele bune se vor apropia de TR4, 3700X probabil va fi pe la 1600- 1650 lei;
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Old 11-06-2019, 11:30   #7211
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The sweet spot conform AMD este 3733Mhz Cl17.
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:40   #7212
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Pe mine ma intereseaza un 3600X, nu am nevoie de mai mult, nu cred ca e vreo diferenta in jocuri intre 6 vs 8 core la aceeasi frecventa.

Ce as vrea eu sa stiu si sper ca asa e.....urca 3600X cu OC pana la un 4,7Ghz?

Adica daca 3950X cu 16 core poate 4,7......asta mic cu doar 6 core nu ar trebui sa duca macar tot atata?
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:45   #7213
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Pe toate 6 nucleele ? nu cred. Adica de abia poate 8600Kul meu 4.5Ghz cu voltaj default si 5.0Ghz cu 1.35V.
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Pe mine ma intereseaza un 3600X, nu am nevoie de mai mult, nu cred ca e vreo diferenta in jocuri intre 6 vs 8 core la aceeasi frecventa.

Ce as vrea eu sa stiu si sper ca asa e.....urca 3600X cu OC pana la un 4,7Ghz?

Adica daca 3950X cu 16 core poate 4,7......asta mic cu doar 6 core nu ar trebui sa duca macar tot atata?
Boost inseamna un singur nucleu urcat la 4.6 in cazul celui mai performant model. Probabil si modele inferioare pot reusi asta dar pentru overclock all-core nu te astepta la mult peste 4200.
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:51   #7215
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Daca kitul meu de memorie G.Skill Trident Z RGB F4-3200C14D-16GTZR se va overclocka usor si pe seria noua AMD, me happy! Pe intel am vazut ca merge 3733Mhz CL16!
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:56   #7216
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Da stiu cum e cu boost-ul, eu tot nu inteleg de ce nu urca un 6/8 core in boost la fel de mult ca un 12/16 core...

La fel cand vorbim de all-core oc.....astea cu mai putine ar trebui sa urce mai sus.

Sau nu-mi functioneaza mie bine logica?
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Old 11-06-2019, 12:58   #7217
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Pentru ca siliconul bun merge la 12/16c iar ala mai slab la modelele inferioare
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Old 11-06-2019, 14:32   #7218
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La câte nuclee se preconizează, mai e necesar înjumătățirea lor pentru a putea fi utilizate de jocuri?
Am găsit răspunsul la Anandtech: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14525...nd-epyc-rome/3
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Întrebare de 100 de puncte: când se termină NDA-ul ca să putem vedea și noi review-uri ca oamenii?
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