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Old 29-01-2020, 12:23   #721
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Plus ca aia 128GB ECC sunt la 1500 ron la baietii veseli, la magazin costa 2300+.
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Old 29-01-2020, 12:26   #722
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Nu e vorba numai de asta... Memoria ECC este foarte buna...pentru servere & stuff, dar nu atingi tu frecventele / latentele alea pe ea, ceea ce este crucial pentru o platforma AMD desktop, de exemplu.
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Old 29-01-2020, 12:38   #723
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64GB DDR4 3200 14-14-14-34 daily use pe Ryzen 9 3900X
Cam chinuite b-dieurile alea, de ce e Trc-ul asa mare?. Am niste Hynix m care arata nitel mai bine (stock)
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Old 29-01-2020, 13:57   #724
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Nu stiu, tu de ce crezi. Poate pentru ca 15-15-15, nu 16-18-18?

Mai copii, nu mai comparati ce scoateti voi acasa cu ce scot eu pe AIDA 6.10 din Iunie anul trecut. Eu nu am schimbat programul, ca sa pot compara memoriile intre ele, pentru studiile de scalare. Scopul studiului de scalare este sa vezi cum merg diverse IC-uri de diverse densitati pe acelasi proc, mobo si aceeasi versiune de software. Nu performanta absoluta, cu ultima versiune de software.

B-Die tin CL, tRCD si tRP super stranse, dar in conditiile astea pot rula numai 2T. Daca relaxez latentele principale pot rula 1T - sau daca aplic o tensiune mai mare. Ceea ce este irelevant pentru daily use. Relevant este ca pe B-die-uri pot strange si mai mult latentele daca vreau neaparat, ceea ce pe Hynix si Micron este mai greu.

Apropo, vezi te rog cat urca M-Die-urile alea ale tale (gen daca tin 3600 sau nu, indiferent de latente - 18-20-20 etc). Astea nu vor neam sa urce.
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Old 29-01-2020, 13:59   #725
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Pe de alta parte, mi se pare fascinant IMC-ul AMD de acum. Gen... M-Die-urile alea sunt niste vechituri care pe Intel nu ar merge cum trebuie neam. Pe AMD vad ca zboara. Nice!
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Old 29-01-2020, 14:26   #726
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Am incercat la pamplezir sa bootez 3600, a mers, erori in Aida stress, probabil le puteam stabiliza cu ceva voltaj/tuning, dar n-am timp de stabilizat memorii din pacate, stock merg foarte OK. Btw, merg cu geardown disabled, spre surprinderea mea.
Eu am impresia ca astia binuiesc la maxim b-dieurile in ultima vreme. Am avut LPX 3000C15, bdie, daca ma atingeam de orice timing, nu mai bootam neam (aceeasi mobo si cpu cu cea am acum), si mai am un prieten care patea la fel cu 3200c16 b-die, toate luate recent.

In schimb, un kit b-die Vengeance Led de 2x16 3200c16 luat acum 3 ani, pe 3700x, mergeau 3600C16 fara nicio greata, mergeau si 3800C16 cu 1,4 V.
Poate ma insel eu, dar in ultima perioada nu as mai pune botul la vestitele b-die (dpdv overclock).
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Old 29-01-2020, 14:34   #727
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Sunt doua tipuri de b-die Daca vrei varianta top-top trebuie dati banutii pe binnuri superioare
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^Cam asa e, dar am impresia ca alea mai vechi la 3000, 3200 le puteai overclocka mai bine. Atentie, ma refer numai la dimm-uri de 16, nu am pus mana pe alea de 8Gb, care stiu ca se oc mult mai usor.
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Da, la inceput era un singur tier. Tine cont ca sunt pe piata b-die din 2016, dupa cam prin 2018 au inceput sa apara diferentele sesizabile intre B-die slab si top.
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Ca sa poata face si kituri ieftine, e logic
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Old 30-01-2020, 20:23   #731
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Sunt doua tipuri de b-die Daca vrei varianta top-top trebuie dati banutii pe binnuri superioare
cum fac diferenta intre cele 2 tipuri ?
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Old 30-01-2020, 20:45   #732
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In general 3600+ sunt ce trebuie, mai jos doar 3200 c14 sunt ok...

In curand voi pune la vanzare cateva exemplare de 3950X si 3900X pretestate, cine vrea 4500 cinebench pe aer sa stea cu ochii geana
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Cred ca pe mine ma prinde upgrade-ul la Ryzen 4000, dar am inceput deja sa caut RAM. Ce parere aveti de kit-ul asta? Nu vreau performanta absoluta, prefer 128gb vs 64gb rapizi.

https://www.pcgarage.ro/memorii/gski...d-channel-kit/

Vorbind acum teoretic de de Ryzen 3950x pe care-l stiti cum scaleaza cu memoriile, l-ar faulta asa tare 3200Mhz CL16? Daca imi termina randarea in DaVinci in 1h20s vs 1h0s mi se cam falfaie. Alta varianta mai ok de 128GB cu 4 placute in max 3500Ron?
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Old 30-01-2020, 22:46   #734
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https://gskill.com/products/1/165/Desktop-Memory

https://gskill.com/product/165/326/1...V128GB-(4x32GB)

poate poti face comanda la shop4pc sau forit preferabil cu livrare in magazin ca sa nu dai de un curier de mana a 14-a.
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am un kit de 2 x 16gb gskill trident Z f4 3600C17D 32gtzr pe care le tin la 3733mhz 16-17-16-32-48-298-1t @ 1.41v setate manual fara xmp , printre primele kituri de 2 x 16gb 3600 de la gskill aparute la inceput de 2018, super multumit recomand
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Old 01-02-2020, 18:48   #736
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3900X merge flawlessly pe mult hulita Biostar X370 GT7 cu un simplu update de BIOS, asa cum se vede / AMD s-a tinut de cuvant cu compatibilitatea intre generatii oe AM4 / fara AMD aveam mainstream cu 4c si HT si acum
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Dar de ce ai ramul asa jos ?
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trebuie bibilit un pic, merge DDR3200 CL14.
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Cam asa merg 4 x 16GB Crucial Ballistix Sport LT... AIDA conteaza mai putin, e versiune veche, e vorba de frecvente stabile
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Ce bine merg saraciile,chiar nu imi pare rau ca am comandat 4x16)mai ales la banii aia Raman dator cu o bere.
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