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Old 26-05-2018, 13:36   #321
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Raman pe Ryzen, in jocuri e aproape egal cu un i5 8600k.
Dau kitul de 8600k + mobo, daca te intereseaza, da-mi un PM.

Am testat si cum a zis DavidMM, cu doua stickuri de RAM, merge fara probleme la 2993 CL16 dar nu e vreo imbunatatire vizibila.
In Cinebench R15 creste cu vreo 30 de puncte si in Warhammer 2 vedeti mai jos.
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Old 26-05-2018, 19:11   #322
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ce kit de RAM este kitul 4x4GB - model/ latente?
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Old 26-05-2018, 20:13   #323
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Asta e.
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Old 27-05-2018, 10:24   #324
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a) alea sunt memorii vechi "optimizate" pentru Intel, merg foarte bine pe Intel - XMP, si mai greu pe AMD toate 4, probleme similare am intalnit cu kituri vechi TeamGroup si Geil - s-ar putea sa nu mearga direct cu profilul XMP activat nici pe Threadripper care este quad channel;
b) ar merge GSkill, Corsair LPX, single rank, dar 2x8GB merg fara probleme, nu am intalnit GSkill cu chipuri Samsung pana la DDR3333 care sa nu mearga pe placi de baza X370/B350 direct cu profilul XMP, si ceva overclocking bonus pe voltajele / timing-urile XMP;
c) sunt kituri GSkill care nu au mers DDR3600 profil XMP pe X370- CH6 si Taichi, decat cu ultimele update-uri de BIOS si cu Ryzen+, unele au mers numai setate manual de la DDR3333/3466;

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Old 27-05-2018, 11:07   #325
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Mda oricum nu e diferenta intre 2400 si 3000 incat sa merite sa schimb kitul, din ce am testat eu.
Am incercat sa le setez manual timingurile, voltajul, dar cu 4 stickuri orice e peste 2400, primesc un minunat semnal de beeeepppp la bootare am ultima versiune de bios din data de 4 mai 2018, dar am incercat si cu cea din 20 martie 2018 si la fel face. Thanks.
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Old 28-05-2018, 09:12   #326
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Tot pe Ryzen m-am decis si eu sa merg.
sunt sanse sa reuseasca combinatia ?
Ryzen 2700X + GIGABYTE AB350 ?
Sau e musai un X470 ?
Cam scumpe placile de baza cu x470...
Multumesc!
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Old 28-05-2018, 11:55   #327
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Reuseste doar cu update de BIOS, daca vine cu cel din fabrica, iar placa e facuta inainte de martie 2018, atunci iti trebuie un proc din primele serii Ryzen sau APU cu care sa faci update de BIOS. Dupa care pui 2700x, desi cu un cooler decent eu zic sa iei 2700 care cred ca merg toate lejer in 4Ghz.
Al meu e stabil la 4Ghz cu 1.3875V din BIOS, dar acum testez 1.37V sa vedem daca tine.
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Old 28-05-2018, 15:32   #328
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Tot pe Ryzen m-am decis si eu sa merg.
sunt sanse sa reuseasca combinatia ?
Ryzen 2700X + GIGABYTE AB350 ?
Sau e musai un X470 ?
Cam scumpe placile de baza cu x470...
Multumesc!
Sansele sa fie facut update la BIOS din fabrica sunt 0.
Eu am luat un x370 si am facut update cu un procesor pe care l-am luat temporar ( pentru o ora ) de la emag. Traiasca returul

Am avut initial probleme cu DPC latency mai exact se agata sunetul groaznic la fiecare cateva secunde dar din fericire au scos update la bios dupa o saptamana iar acum totul merge perfect.
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Old 28-05-2018, 19:16   #329
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@smok3r: 2700X si Gigabyte AB350 Gaming cu ultimul BIOS - 4GHz all cores:
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Old 28-05-2018, 19:43   #330
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wow, asta e raspunsul care il asteptam
AB350 scrie pe mine , e clar!
multumesc!
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Old 28-05-2018, 19:45   #331
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2700X + Gigabyte AB350 Gaming cu ultimul BIOS - 4,15 GHz all cores, alimentarea placii este slaba 4+3 faze fara dublori pentru CPU, fara racire pe MOSFET-ii de la SOC, pe B350 cea mai rasarita placa este Asus B350 Strix
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Old 28-05-2018, 20:31   #332
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Am lasat-o balta pana la urma, culmea in Vegas si un program de conversie, i5ul e mai rapid sau egal cu Ryzen, iar in jocuri e usor peste, cu exceptia DirtRally si Arma 3 unde e bine peste Ryzen.
Ca sa dau B350 pe un X470 si poate sa obtin compatibilitatea cu 4 module de RAM ma mai costa inca 300 lei, pentru un total de 700 lei diferenta in plus fata de platforma Intel. La care adaug ca trebuie instalate drivere si 40 lei pentru un adaptor la coolerul Noctua sa-l prind pe AM4.

Daca ar fi sa trec din nou de la 3770k la platforma noua, luata din magazin, as merge fara sa clipesc pe Ryzen. Dar in situatia mea, nu merita diferenta de bani, prefer sa ii pastrez pentru la toamna cand apare noua generatie nVidia.
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Old 29-05-2018, 10:36   #333
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diferenta intre o placa B350 si una mid-range X370, Asus X370 Prime, cu aceleasi componente, 2700X la 4GHz all cores:
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pentru comparatie: Asus X370 Prime, cu aceleasi componente, 2700X la 4,15 GHz all cores:
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aceeasi configuratie 2700X la 4,2 GHz all cores:
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Dupa ani de zile de tras de Phenom 2 X6 1090T am trecut la Ryzen, procesor R5 1600, placa de baza MSI B350 Tomahawk, memorie 16Gb Vengence LPX 3000Mhz CL 15 single rank ca e formata din 2 Kituri de 2 x 4Gb si merg pe profilul XMP 2 la 2933Mhz. Am observat ca atunci cand incarca jocuri de pe SSD-ul pe sata are cateva microsecunde cand se blocheaza imaginea si tind sa cred ca SSD-ul care asigura la citire 530Mb/s nu reuseste sa tina pasul cu restul sistemului, poate ma insel.
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wow, asta e raspunsul care il asteptam
AB350 scrie pe mine , e clar!
multumesc!
Daca ai nevoie de procesor ca sa updatezi biosul pt ryzen 2700 iti pot imprumuta eu un 1600X (vad ca esti din Pitesti) .
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Dupa ani de zile de tras de Phenom 2 X6 1090T am trecut la Ryzen, procesor R5 1600, placa de baza MSI B350 Tomahawk, memorie 16Gb Vengence LPX 3000Mhz CL 15 single rank ca e formata din 2 Kituri de 2 x 4Gb si merg pe profilul XMP 2 la 2933Mhz. Am observat ca atunci cand incarca jocuri de pe SSD-ul pe sata are cateva microsecunde cand se blocheaza imaginea si tind sa cred ca SSD-ul care asigura la citire 530Mb/s nu reuseste sa tina pasul cu restul sistemului, poate ma insel.
Depinde de joc, asa face si la mine cu Z370 si 8600k dar facea la fel si cu Ryzen 2700 + B350, e vorba de TW Warhammer 2. In Wolfenstein sau Dirt Rally nu am vazut asta.
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Chiar asa mare e diferenta in jocuri la memoria ram de la 2133/2400 la 3000? Adica vad ca toata lumea plateste o carca de bani pe niste amarate memorii, dar plusul e unul real? Sau e genul de 1-2 fps in plus?
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Pe Ryzen e foarte important sa ai 2666. Mai sus castigul de performante exista dar e mai redus. Intre 2666 si 2133 era diferenta foarte mare.
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