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Old 25-11-2019, 16:55   #7941
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Old 25-11-2019, 18:29   #7942
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Bai nene dar TreadRipper-ele astea noi sunt fucking amazing! :O
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Old 25-11-2019, 20:38   #7944
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Le-a dat albastrilor la temelie grav in productivitate, si gamingul excelent, la acelasi nivel cu consacratul Intel. Eu as zice ca trebuie sa ne bucuram pentru rezultatele astea, pana la urma noi consumatorii beneficiem de pe urma acestei competitii. Sa nu ne trezim cu schimbari de CEO & stuff la Intel daca treburile merg in directia asta.
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CEO-ul responsabil pentru unde e Intel acum a fost schimbat de ceva timp
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Deci in 3-4 ani vedem de la Intel un procesor superb. Imi convine. Bring it on!
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Old 25-11-2019, 20:59   #7950
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CEO-ul responsabil pentru unde e Intel acum a fost schimbat de ceva timp
Ma scuzi, nu am stiut, insa si cel care este acum nu cred ca e de mai mare isprava, cred ca stii de faza ca Intel a dat drumul la embargo cu cateva ore inainte de AMD doar ca sa evite comparatiile directe cu TR3000.

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Deci in 3-4 ani vedem de la Intel un procesor superb. Imi convine. Bring it on!
Un alt lucru pozitiv este ca poate nu se busesc preturile daca raman si unii si altii competitivi, insa mi-e frica sa nu fie cum e acum Nvidia VS AMD, scumpeste Nvidia scumpeste si AMD, vezi RTX2000 si RX5700, dar poate Intel ca al 3-lea jucator va mai normaliza preturile.
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Old 25-11-2019, 21:05   #7951
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@Fallen, care e īnălțimea maximă cu lid-ul deschis? Vreau să știu dacă poate să intre sub un sertar de la mobilă care este foarte aproape de blat.

Deci ecranul deschis, īn poziție de lucru, nu mă interesează cāt de subțire/clătită este.
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Mda, deci 3990X o sa nenoroceasca Intelu pana scot o arhitectura noua.

Ii face de ras AMD, adica no, deja ii face de ras, dar intre 3990X si orice ar scoate Intel la anu, o sa fie o prapastie imensa
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Ma scuzi, nu am stiut, insa si cel care este acum nu cred ca e de mai mare isprava, cred ca stii de faza ca Intel a dat drumul la embargo cu cateva ore inainte de AMD doar ca sa evite comparatiile directe cu TR3000.



Un alt lucru pozitiv este ca poate nu se busesc preturile daca raman si unii si altii competitivi, insa mi-e frica sa nu fie cum e acum Nvidia VS AMD, scumpeste Nvidia scumpeste si AMD, vezi RTX2000 si RX5700, dar poate Intel ca al 3-lea jucator va mai normaliza preturile.

NDA-ul initial era pe 5. Au vazut reactia la articolul nostru, care a generat un val urias in afara si l-au mutat pe 25, ca sa nu poata fi comoarat cu 3950X. Apoi au devansat cu 6 ore. Stiu
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Old 25-11-2019, 21:52   #7954
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https://www.pcgarage.ro/procesoare/a...70x-37ghz-box/
Cica a fost 9999.99. Nu e rau deloc. La asta nu au fost magari cu adaosul comercial. Ba chiar e sub USD->RON+TVA. Conversia directa ar insemna 10300RON.
Si nici la 3960X nu e grav. Conversia USD-RON+TVA ar da 7212 RON.

Pacat de pretul practicat deocamdata la 3950X.
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Old 25-11-2019, 22:09   #7955
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a) din pacate 3900X si 3950X seamana cu un paper-launch, nu sunt in stock sau daca este vreunul in stock, este la un pret mai mare decat MSRP in EURO transformat in lei;
b) si cand te gandesti ca aceste procesoare sunt facute din chiplets-uri "rebuturi" la a treia mana - cele mai bune merg in EPYC pentru ca ROR - rate of return este cea mai mare in CPU de server, urmatoarele merg in THREADRIPPER unde ROR este mai mare dacat la mainstream- AM4, si cea de-a treia mana ajunge in CPU AM4;
c) nu se pune problema de binnuit la ele, sunt deja binnuite si duse spre limita superioara de AMD;
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Old 25-11-2019, 22:58   #7957
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Cam da. Athlon64 much?
Sunt curios cat tine distractia pentru AMD....daca se repeta istoria, in vreo 2 ani ar trebui sa apara un "Conroe2" de la Intel.
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Old 25-11-2019, 23:04   #7958
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Depinde, daca scoate AMD primul pe piata procesoare 2.5D/3D e game over pentru Intel
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Conroe de la Intel va iesi sigur... Dar zen 3 deja e pe teava... Zen 4 la fel.... Nu e suficient sa ai Conroe, mai trebuie sa scoata si AMD Phenom ca sa poti sa ii spulberi
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Old 25-11-2019, 23:38   #7960
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Zen3, cel putin, anunta inca o crestere a IPC-ului destul de mare. Sa vedem cat se poate creste cu Zen4...
Ca si principiu arhitectural, care e limita? Cate CCD-uri merg oare maximum puse? Limita e data de dimensiunea fizica a procesorului final? Consum? Altceva?
Altfel, tinand cont de faptul ca dezvoltatorii de soft au inceput sa se dea pe brazda cu procesarea paralela, the sky's the limit..
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