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Old 07-03-2017, 14:41   #5161
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Hai sa mai asteptam cateva luni sa vedeti ce sterge pe jos Ryzen cu 7700K. Bios nou, memorii mai optimizate cu frecventa si latente si timp de raspuns mai bun, optimizare in jocuri facute corespunzator, cat si in Windows. Posesorii de 7700K, chiar daca ii fac delid si il vor tine la 5000, tot vor plange vs. Ryzen la 3900.
Va repet, singurul lucru cu care eu tin este bugetul meu. Am avut 386, 486, Celeron 333, Duron 733, Duron 1333, Athlon 2600+, X2 5200+, E8400, Q9550, i7 920, 2500K. Nu sunt fan bou la nici o firma, cumpar ce este mai convenabil, pret / calitate, pur si simplu. Nu imi pasa ca e verde sau rosu, ca e AMD sau Intel.

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Old 07-03-2017, 14:42   #5162
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Incercati sa va limitati la titlul topicului fara sa o luati atat de mult in off-road.

Nu e topic de versus nici de recomandari/critici privind achizitiile.
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Old 07-03-2017, 15:24   #5163
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Cred ca cea mai inteligenta miscare in momentul asta e rabdarea. AMD o sa lanseze celelalte procesoare, vor fi optimizate cat de cat pana atunci si vom putea trage niste concluzii.
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Old 07-03-2017, 15:39   #5164
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Si ar trebui sa ne incante ca un 8core se confunda cu un 4core ?
Strict in cazul meu, da! Atat timp cat mai fac si altceva, unde diferenta e cam dubla.

Apoi monitoarele mele sunt la 60hz... si tot 60hz au majoritatea gamerilor, iar sansele sa vedem niste ajustari de performanta la capitolul gaming sunt favorabile zic eu.

Acum, pentru amatorii de 3D, clar un 7700k e alegerea fireasca, dar din ce stiu eu, sunt mai putini.
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Old 07-03-2017, 16:32   #5165
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Felicitari pentru articole si pentru efortul depus.

Nu ma vad cumparand nici unul din procesoarele lansate de AMD. Interesant e ce va urma, odata cu lansarea modelelor cu mai putine cores si mai ieftine. O sa fie interesant un sistem full AMD, adica si CPU si GPU Vega,
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Old 07-03-2017, 16:40   #5166
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AMD "master plan" unde conteaza cu adevarat sa ai multe C/T.
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Old 07-03-2017, 17:18   #5167
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AMD's Naples platform prepares to take Zen into the datacenter



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Old 07-03-2017, 17:23   #5168
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How To Get Ryzen Working on Windows 7 x64
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Old 07-03-2017, 17:25   #5169
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O sa fac si eu niste teste mai tirziu (lucrez la ele) sa vedem ce spor de performanta aduce la un 7700K OC la 5GHz in 4C/8T vs 4C/4T cu PhysX pe CPU sau pe GPU in ambele situatii, testele fiind cu uncore default la 4200MHz, si apoi cu uncore la 4500-4600MHz, sa vedem exact cit conteaza in jocuri HyperThreading cit si uncore.
Bench-ul va fi facut in Rise Of The Tomb Raider (joc original, Steam), cu absolut totul la maxim posibil in DX12 in rezolutia de 1080p placa video default si apoi OC.
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Old 07-03-2017, 18:15   #5170
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Discutia asta cu future-proof a fost si atunci cand C2D erau mainstream ca 4c/8t acum, si in 1-2 ani au devenit bottleneck-uri majore. Si da, vorbim de future-proof oricand si in orice caz pentru ca nu ne place sa aruncam cu banii ca la nunti de manelisti.
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Old 07-03-2017, 18:22   #5171
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DjLeco nu te chinui degeaba in Rise of the Tomb Raider, am facut eu aici si il doare undeva de procesor.
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Old 07-03-2017, 18:27   #5172
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Asta a zis si un tester, ca e cel mai inutil benchmark posibil. Pana si placa video, fluctueaza enorm intre testari, frecventa!
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Are un bug la prima rulare, daca-l ignori pe primul este ok.

AMD Previews “Naples” Server Processor, coming Q2 2017
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How To Get Ryzen Working on Windows 7 x64:

[http://www.anandtech.com/show/11182/...-windows-7-x64
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Am vazut si eu ca nu difera mult bench-ul in functie de CPU, dar totusi difera.

Updatez postarea pe parcurs sa aranjez.

Sa o luam in ordine:

Proc 5GHz 4C/8T/Uncore Auto PhysX pe GPU




Proc 5GHz 4C/8T/Uncore Auto PhysX pe CPU


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Proc 5GHz 4C/4T/Uncore Auto PhysX pe GPU






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@DjLeco:.. cred ca avem thread dedicat pentru Kaby Lake. Wrong thread I presume ?!?
Am si eu jocul ala pe Steam si un 4790K dar nu stiu pe cine intereseaza rezultatele, asta fiind threadul de noutati despre AMD ...
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DDR4 Memory Scaling on AMD AM4 Platform – The Best Memory Kit For AMD Ryzen CPUs

http://www.legitreviews.com/ddr4-mem...YEgP9DQHIJE.99

Viteza memoriilor e importanta in jocuri @1080p din cate se pare (see attachnment); Orice e sub 3000 MHz constituie un bottleneck major pentru Ryzen... Si totusi sunt multi care au facut review-urile cu memoriile la 2666MHz.
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Vroiam ca in cazul in care cineva doreste sa faca comparatii in diverse ipostaze, sa aibe cu ce compara, facusem teste si la 3200MHz sa compar cu Rizen 1700 simplu, si la 1000Mhz, cu toate cores.
Daca deranjeaza, se poate sterge/muta/etc.

Eu unul nu am vazut diferente majore intre 3200MHz si 5000MHz 4C/8T/Kaby, in Tomb Raider, nici in Metro Last Light, doar ca primul inghite 7000+Mb Gddr, iar al doilea maxim 1600Mb Gddr.

O fi bine optimizat jocul, o fi putin dependent de CPU si mai mult de GPU, nu stiu ce sa zic.

Daca stiti voi un Gaming Bench mai bun, la care sa se simta la scor si o diferenta de 200MHz la CPU, sa-i spuneti si mie, sint curios sa testez, in Tomb, n-am vazut mari diferente, nici in Metro Last Light.

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